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Subject: Re: Computers vs. Humans - meaningless?

Author: Rex

Date: 04:48:10 03/26/02

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What this means is that Computers did_not loose_any_game.  A first grader will
tell you that would most likely mean computers had the upper hand ver. Gulko.

Remember computers undefeated...Gulko WINLESS!!  think about it.



On March 25, 2002 at 14:02:47, Russell Reagan wrote:

>I was thinking about what computer vs. human matches really mean. If Gulko
>doesn't get a single win against the 4 computer programs, does that mean
>anything? Does that mean that the computers are generally stronger? Or does it
>mean that in the course of 8 games, he made 2 less than optimal moves? If the
>latter, I don't believe that means anything as far as whether or not computers
>are better than the best humans yet.
>
>So Kasparov loses his last match against Deep Blue, Gulko will likely lose his
>match against the computers, and what if Kramnik loses to Fritz? Does that
>really mean anything? We still have a fairly small pool of games from world
>class players vs. computers. You could even throw Gulko out of the "world class"
>category, but someone else should make that decision, because I have no idea of
>his playing level compared to a Kasparov of Kramnik.
>
>It seems like it would take regular competition between world class human
>players and computers for the consensus to be that computers are better than the
>best human players. We all know computers are "really good", so unless we can
>say with relative certainty that computers are better than the best human
>players, do any of these matches mean anything? As far as I can tell, these
>matches just lead to the conclusion that "we don't know".
>
>What do you think?
>
>Russell



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