Author: John Merlino
Date: 09:44:41 03/29/02
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On March 29, 2002 at 12:10:52, K. Burcham wrote: >On March 29, 2002 at 11:29:42, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On March 29, 2002 at 10:46:37, K. Burcham wrote: >> >>>THE SSDF RATING LIST 2002-03-27 85022 games played by 237 computers >>>> Rating + - Games Won Oppo >>>> ------ --- --- ----- --- ---- >>>> 1 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2748 38 -35 395 68% 2616 >>>> 2 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 34 -33 460 63% 2619 >>>> 4 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2708 37 -36 381 61% 2626 >>>> 5 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2706 37 -36 379 61% 2626 >>>> 6 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2684 34 -33 436 58% 2630 >>>> 7 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 36 -35 407 63% 2587 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Kurt Utzinger tournament >>>1: Junior 7 7.5 / 12 XXX 0=. 1== 11. 1=0 1=. >>> 2: Fritz 7006 7.0 / 12 1=. XXX 01. ==0 1=. 110 >>> 3: Hiarcs 7.32 7.0 / 12 0== 10. XXX =1. ==. 1=1 >>> 4: Shredder 6.02 6.0 / 12 00. ==1 =0. XXX =11 ==. >>> 5: TheKing 3.12 X 4.5 / 12 0=1 0=. ==. =00 XXX ==. >>> 6: Chess Tiger 14.0 4.0 / 12 0=. 001 0=0 ==. ==. XXX >>> >>> >>>kburcham >> >>So what is your conclusion then? :-) > >I have already posted my conclusion several weeks ago. >In my post I gave my opinion on this tournament compared to Sarahs, Jonas, and >SSDF. I do not like such a big difference in results posted here. it makes this >forum not respected by other chess players. >it would seem that the SSDF with so many games played would have meaning. >I could put together a tournament post against any program here. >like I said before, everyone here is going to believe what they want. >the utzinger results make a joke out of SSDF results. >kburcham Why? Using whatever logic you may be using, couldn't you also say that Utzinger's results are a joke because they contradict the SSDF's results? These two tests have no direct correlation whatsoever, so therefore they cannot be contradictory. They are just more data points to be used for "the big picture" (which, from where I'm standing, says that all six of these programs are equals). The SSDF has a "champion", as does the CCT, the Dutch Open, etc. The winners of these tournaments should in no way be considered to be THE champion (nor, IMO, can there ever be "A champion", with new versions coming out all the time and the infinite number of variables that exist in computer chess); they were just the best during that tournament. jm p.s. And since when are these independent tournaments (tests) being held for "respect"?
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