Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 15:16:34 04/09/02
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On April 09, 2002 at 12:39:21, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
>It's always good to display unconditional love for your loved ones; the same
>goes for a chess program I can imagine :)
>
>However there is a context. Jorge is very enthousiastic about CT 14.9 Palm,
>which I can understand. I own an iPAQ and I'm amazed that -as with the Palm- I
>really do have a portable computer in my hand that can be compared to a desktop
>in many aspects.
>So the enthousiasm about a program that (occasionaly or not) wins from such a
>destop-run chess program on a platform with so much more processing power is
>understandable. It's also a compliment for efficient programming for a handheld.
>
>However we do have these discussions daily. What can you really (and accurately)
>say about the strenght of a program?
>
>Jorge posts a game - it could be one out of ten, or one out of two, or one out
>of 100, people here do that every day - and it is very valuable to know that
>figure. Will's question was right, and not silly.
>
>If you estimate a program at 2200 and another on 2400 we know that playing 100
>games could maybe lead to about 15-25 wins of the 2200 program. That's no
>miracle, that's the balance of power between the two programs. It also means
>about 75-85 losses, which is as logical as can be.
>
>The header "Another Miracle" could suggest that CT 14.9 Palm is on a winning
>streak impossible given the estimated strenght; Jorge even implies without
>saying it directly that CT Palm could well be a program that could be estimated
>2400+ or 2500+. Or at least: you could conclude that from his message.
>
>If CT Palm wins 60 out of 100 games from a 2400 program, that sure is the case
>for me due to the *definition* of rating, if CT Palm wins 2 out of 100 from an
>2800 program, that's still not amazing. It could be expected.
>
>You don't need to *own* a copy of a program to make that calculation.
>
>Jorge's post was full of justified enthousiasm, but given the population of this
>message board he'd knew these questions would arise.
>
>Now you go and make me an iPAQ-version of CT :))
>
>Best regards,
>
>J.
I think the surprise comes from the fact that many people overestimate what
computing power can do.
It's good and refreshing to point out that with the right algorithms a slow Palm
can kick a PC in the ass.
Computing power is not all. Don't expect it to cover algorithmic deficiencies.
People take it for granted that even an average amateur program will beat them
at chess. And that a Palm is so slow that they will beat it easily.
Obviously this is not true.
I think it is worth remembering.
Christophe
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