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Subject: Re: 3 computer chess myths: which one has proven to be true?

Author: José Carlos

Date: 23:49:53 04/22/02

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On April 23, 2002 at 02:45:36, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On April 22, 2002 at 16:58:46, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 2002 at 12:35:10, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On April 22, 2002 at 09:19:32, José Carlos wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>  1 and 2 are true, and figures can be give to support it. I'm not sure about 3,
>>>>but seems intuitive.
>>>
>>>I'd like to see your data about (2).
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>  I'll search in my rating lists if you want, but I don't think it's necessary.
>>My program, for example, performs very badly with little time because: I measure
>>time in seconds (integer); when only 15 seconds remaining (more or less) it
>>plays instantly until it gets the control. Ok, my program is not the only
>>program, but the original post stated "some programs", which is true.
>>  Amy is also a good example. It performs bad in very fast games.
>>
>>  Look at Averno's rating on ICC. Bullet rating is very low.
>>
>> AvernoX is a computer program.
>>
>>          rating   win  loss  draw total    best
>>Bullet      2326  1498   258   140  1896    2464  ( 9-Jan-01)
>>Blitz       2546  2623   480   229  3332    2697  ( 1-Apr-02)
>>Standard    2322   751   240    84  1075    2386  (29-Mar-02)
>>
>>  Now look at crafty. Much better in blitz than in standard.
>>
>>Information about ICC member crafty:
>>
>>          rating   win  loss  draw total    best
>>Wild        1984   333   101    11   445    2204  ( 3-Oct-00)
>>Bullet      3255  6664  1467  1087  9218    3255  (11-Jun-01)
>>Blitz       2841 56440 15577 11896 83913    3388  ( 9-Jun-00)
>>Standard    2489  4752  2308  1964  9024    2792  (25-Oct-00)
>>
>>  But Diep has lower bullet raing and higher standard
>>
>>diep is a computer program.
>>
>>          rating   win  loss  draw total    best
>>Bullet      3054  1298    27    67  1392    3098  (20-Apr-02)
>>Blitz       2941  2624   166   246  3036    3148  ( 9-Apr-02)
>>Standard    2570   719   345   206  1270    2640  (17-Dec-01)
>>
>>  PostModernist's rating looks like Averno's, but about 100 elo higher.
>>
>> PostModernist is a computer program.
>>
>>          rating   win  loss  draw total    best
>>Wild        2070    14     5     0    19       0
>>Bullet      2465  5026  1732   603  7361    2690  (15-Dec-01)
>>Blitz       2633 28963  6416  4002 39381    2899  (20-Jul-01)
>>Standard    2451  1833  1238   567  3638    2554  (18-Mar-02)
>>
>>  José C.
>
>These ratinglists are completely seperate (AFAIK), so we can't be sure one list
>hasn't "drifted" up or down relative to the others.
>
>If a program scores worse in in bullet than in Blitz (against humans that is),
>then I suspect the program has some sort of time management problem, for the
>advantage over humans in bullet seems very large.
>
>-S.

  Sure, but nobody is speaking of perfect programs, nor perfect humans. Both
have strong and weak points. There're many programs and, when we speak about
programs, in general, all of them should count.

  José C.



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