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Subject: Re: Computer chess vs. computer checkers and other games

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:00:53 05/06/02

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On May 06, 2002 at 09:56:26, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On May 06, 2002 at 01:16:41, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 06, 2002 at 00:41:48, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On May 05, 2002 at 06:54:48, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think that there are only 32 squares and 4 kind of pieces and it means that
>>>>5^32 is an upper bound for the number of position(a square may be empty)
>>>>
>>>>5^32 is only an upper bound and the number of practical positions to analyze may
>>>>be clearly smaller.
>>>
>>>
>>>443,748,401,247 is the number of positions in the 8-piece (or fewer) endgame
>>>tablebases for draughts.
>>>
>>>That number is extremely close to 441,739,287,424, which is the number of
>>>possible positions with 8 pieces on the board (32*31*30*29*28*27*26*25)
>>
>>
>>It is not the number of possible positions with 8 pieces on the board.
>>
>>choosing 8 different squares in the board can be done in
>>
>>32*31*30*29*28*27*25*25/(8*7*6*5*4*3*2)
>>
>>After that you need to put in every square a number (1-4) to tell the computer
>>the kind of piece that is there so you need to multiply that number by 4^8.
>>
>>4^8=65536>8*7*6*5*4*3*2=40320 so the number is slightly bigger but your formula
>>gives bigger numbers for tablebases of more than 8 pieces.
>>
>>
>>Uri
>
>I took that original number straight off the Chinook website, so it is an exact
>value of the number of positions with 8 or fewer pieces.
>
>Russell

The small difference is probably because of luck because you did in your
calculation 2 mitakes(one mistake that make the number bigger and another
mistake that make it smaller).

Uri



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