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Subject: Re: Feedback on Shredder 2

Author: Mark Young

Date: 06:04:27 07/26/98

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On July 26, 1998 at 08:52:14, Moritz Berger wrote:

>On July 26, 1998 at 08:14:04, mike cooter wrote:
>
>>I know of its ranking on SSDF and the other list, but can someone provide me
>>with some feedback on Shredder 2? Likes , dislikes, style of play, other
>>features etc.
>
>likes:
>- Crafty-like logfiles
>- multiple variant mode
>- analysis include/exclude
>- native Windows 95/NT program with full auto232 support
>- nice opening book (I found some interesting novelties in it)
>- strong engine
>- useable 2D board
>- good EPD support
>
>
>dislikes:
>- F**%&! copy protection - sometimes wants original CD back multiple times
>within a few hours even when I didn't even reboot my NT 4 machine
>- hardware hungry (fast CPU) to maximize playing strength - the list of
>tournaments on www.computerchess.de where Shredder scored better than e.g. Fritz
>5 saw Shredder playing often on a Digital Alpha-PC/500+ Mhz.
>At Blitz or speed chess Shredder gets shreddered by other programs and humans
>alike if you don't have at least a very fast Pentium II machine.
>- no opening book editor
>- you cannot analyze entire games (i.e. overnight analysis, blundercheck)!!!
>This is a HUGE drawback for me.
>- no annotation or alternate lines inside a game possible
>
>
>
>Conclusion: If you have all other programs, Shredder is a nice to have but no
>mandatory purchase. If you don't already own Rebel, Hiarcs or M-Chess (DOS) or
>Fritz 5 + engines (Junior, Hiarcs) (Windows), go and get these programs first.
>
>Moritz

I was thinking of getting Shredder 2 but it sounds like I should hold off even
though I have the other programs. What about powerchess98, I was watching it
play ferret and it won the the 2 games I seen it play at game 30 min.
Powerchess98 was just running on a P 166 and Ferret on a alpha 533. Is this
program really that strong?



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