Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 06:18:54 05/15/02
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On May 14, 2002 at 19:34:29, Chris Carson wrote: >On May 14, 2002 at 19:26:17, martin fierz wrote: > >>On May 14, 2002 at 19:04:18, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>On May 14, 2002 at 18:56:05, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>> >>>>On May 14, 2002 at 17:39:32, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>Very nice interview. My thanks to GM Smirin, he seemed to be very "open and >>>>>honest" with his assessment. I think all of his comments are very telling and >>>>>the programmers and our forum should take note. I found the follwoing points >>>>>very interesting (just fit my own interests): >>>>> >>>>>1. Computers seemed to avoid main lines. >>>>>2. Having White is very important against a computer. >>>>>3. Computers weak in closed positions and very strong in open positions. >>>>>4. He found himself tired, even with the breaks and shorter time controls. >>[snipped back in] >>>>>5. He would like a rematch. >> >>>> >>>>point 4 isn't correct according to the interview. Neither tired nor >>>>exhausted. That's your interpretation without any basis in the text. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Mogens >>> >>>As usual Mogen, you are wrong: >>> >>>"Well, even though we played only four games per week, which helped me to pull >>>myself together between the games, it wasn’t so easy psychologically. As a >>>result, I lost concentration a few times during the match and it cost me at >>>least 0.5 point (and it could be even more if the computer was more accurate!)! >>>It’s just not so simple to play chess when you know that you have to avoid >>>certain kind of positions, even if your intuition is telling you it’s >>>objectively correct to go for them! However, I think I managed to withstand the >>>pressure, and at the moment I’m full of energy and not tired at all! >>>" >>> >>>A loss of concentration is "tired" or "exhausted", that is a psychological fact. >> >> >>read his lips please... and look at the games. >>"it was not easy psychologically" is given as reason for the loss of >>concentration. not tired or exhausted. this is not the same. >>if you look at the games, you will also understand what he means - e.g. the >>aborted game junior-smirin, where smirin had an easy draw as black, and was >>probably thinking along the lines "this is an easy draw and these comps are weak >>in the ending anyway, so why don't i just move back and forth a bit, nothing can >>happen here". he lost his concentration in this game not because he was tired, >>but because he underestimated junior. >>i know you have your agenda with this tired thing... don't let it influence you >>too much :-) > >I do not have an agenda, although it is clear that you and Mogens do. I am a >psychologist. I have a PhD in psychology. I specialize in "cognitive" and >"cognitive/behaviorism". A loss of concentration is due to being tired, >fatigued or exhausted or stress by definition. > Perhaps you're using the term "loss of concentration" in some formal, psychological sense, in which case you'd have to convince me that this is the sense that Smirin meant too. I think one can lose concentration for all sorts of reasons, in a more informal sense. For example, you could get bored, or hungry, or you could be distracted by something. When I'm working at home, I often get distracted by cats which squabble in the road where I live. In a competition you could lose concentration because you underestimate your opponents, or you think your opponent is offside and you expect the referee to blow the whistle. I've seen the football team I support lose concentration at set-pieces shortly after they have gone two goals up. I don't think that the phrase "loss of concentration" is restricted to situations where fatigue or stress is involved. At least, not in the vernacular. Andrew
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