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Subject: Re: The new version of Junior is significantly better

Author: blass uri

Date: 22:37:13 07/26/98

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On July 26, 1998 at 23:37:23, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 26, 1998 at 23:14:45, blass uri wrote:
>
>>I tested the new version of Junior Amir Ban sent me
>>and I did a nunn match between Junior and fritz5
>>
>>I used pentium200MMX
>>
>>Junior5 won the nunn match 12:8
>>(I gave the programs 10 minutes per game+10 seconds per move).
>>I gave every program 12,000Kbytes hash tables(I cannot give exactly 12000 so the
>>computer made it 11,9..Kbytes
>>
>>I think the main reason Junior5 won fitz5 is that Junior was better in tactics.
>>
>>before this match I did a nunn match with 10 minutes per game without 10 seconds
>>per move(both sides used near 10,000Kbytes hash tables).
>>In this match fritz5 won 12:8 but when I looked at the games I saw that
>>in 1 of the games Junior lost in time at move 156 in a draw position.
>>fritz has only king and bishop when Junior had king bishop and a pawn.
>>This is the reason I decided to give the programs more 10 seconds per move.
>>
>>This is a big improvement because Junior4.6 lost to fritz5 14.5:5.5 in 10
>>minutes per move and if I added 10 seconds to every move the result was not
>>better.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I have not run the Nunn test with Junior 4.6, but I did let them play out of the
>same opening book and play both side of the opening. I found Junior 4.6 >better then Fritz 5 at fast time controls.

which opening book did you use?
from my tests I found Fritz5 is clearly better than Junior4.6 in the nunn test
and it is not important if I use fast time controls or slow time controls.

Uri

> I think it is wrong for people to think
>fritz 5 is best at fast time controls. I found the program much stronger at
>slower time controls. If you have the time could you run the match at say game
>30 with 30 sec inc. I would find this much more telling. I think Junior 5 will
>be a great program. I can wait until I can buy a copy.



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