Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 14:27:29 05/22/02
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On May 20, 2002 at 15:41:08, Guido Schimmels wrote:
>On May 19, 2002 at 11:49:18, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>BTW I'm trying Linux too, but I can't get used to it. I thought it was small and
>>elegant, but actually it is as bloated as Windows and quite slower.
>
>Try WindowMaker or XFCE (which I prefer) as a desktop environment.
>You can boot in both of them with <30MB total memory usage, which
>isn't too much nowadays.
I have tried them (they are installed by default in Vector Linux).
>Then try ROX-Filer as a file-manager and prefer gtk/gnome based apps.
The answer you are making here is like telling me that if I find Windows XP too
big then no problem, I can use Windows 95.
Can you see what's wrong?
The problem is that KDE is now dominating and probably for good reasons.
Having alternatives in this case is not a good point, it is a bad point. It's
just adding confusion.
I want to use the same interface that everybody will use. I don't want to arrive
on a computer and discover that I know the OS but I don't know the GUI.
I don't want to teach Linux to my girlfriend, sister or mother, and realize
later that what they have learnt is going to be useless, because at work they
are not going to use the same GUI.
Because of this, KDE is nowadays actually defining a big part of Linux future.
>Problem is, I admit, there is no real alternative to Star Office/OpenOffice
>and Mozilla/Netscape/Galeon, which means you still won't get very far with
>64MB, if you want to do professional text-processing and painless web-browsing.
Yes.
People saying that Linux is slim and fast are lying.
It is not. It requires as much and generally more resource than Windows.
Not a killer. But it must be said.
>>And too hard to use. The guys who write programs for Linux only have the
>>experienced users in mind. Fatal mistake.
>
>Maybe that's still true for too many open source projects, but
>in general this is no longer true. Example:
>GNOME 2 will add lots of support for disabled people.
That's a good idea.
But it is not addressing the main issues...
>>Shit. I really hoped to get rid of Windows, but Linux is still not ready.
>
>Ok, Linux is not perfect in respect to ease of use, like MacOS(X), but not
>much behind Windows I find. And some things are now even easier in Linux
>than Windows.
As I said already, we need an alternative to Windows. It is not a big problem if
it is technically inferior.
But Linux fanatics should stop their bullshit and open their eyes.
>Real issues are:
>1. The latest or exotic hardware will often not work with Linux - and that won't
>change until Linux is mainstream.
That's true but that's not a killer. Hardware support in Linux is already
impressive.
>2. Lack of apps in some fields
The solution is Wine. More efforts should be invested on Wine. It is the KEY to
the future of Linux.
Wine and KDE. Remember this.
>3. Proprietary data-formats, like btw. Acrobat Reader 5 for Linux and Solaris
>has just been announced, one year after the Windows and Mac ports. Again, won't
>change until Linux is mainstream.
Wine.
Christophe
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