Author: stuart taylor
Date: 16:39:20 05/25/02
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On May 24, 2002 at 14:22:53, Christophe Theron wrote: >On May 24, 2002 at 08:10:17, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On May 23, 2002 at 21:47:29, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:54:58, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On May 23, 2002 at 16:19:49, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 15:31:12, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 14:48:08, J. C. Boco wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 11:17:29, Roy Eassa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Now that Palm is migrating to the faster CPUs that Pocket PC uses, are you >>>>>>>>planning to abandon developing Chess Tiger for Pocket PC and just stick with >>>>>>>>Chess Tiger for Palm OS? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I would like to add a question. Given the StrongArm processors in Palms will be >>>>>>>available later this year, when will you have a StrongArm-Native ChessTiger for >>>>>>>Palm? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't know. As soon as I get the necessary tools (compiler, IDE), but they are >>>>>>not ready at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> How much slower will a non-native version be? >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't know. It is possible that Chess Tiger running on a StrongARM emulating a >>>>>>DragonBall is as fast as on a real DragonBall. PACE (the DragonBall emulator in >>>>>>PalmOS 5) is only 80Kb in size and from what I read is very efficient. >>>>>> >>>>>>The speed of the emulator is not the only issue. The OS APIs are going to be >>>>>>MUCH faster, because the new OS is written in native StrongARM. And Chess Tiger >>>>>>uses the OS heavily to deal with hash tables (it is not possible to have direct >>>>>>access to big chunks of memory under the current version of PalmOS, so I have to >>>>>>call an OS API each time I need to access the hash table, that is on every >>>>>>node). >>>>>> >>>>>>I guess the native StrongARM version of Tiger will be 6 to 10 times faster, but >>>>>>it's just a guess. It could be more, not only because the clock runs faster >>>>>>(bigger MHz number) but also because on the ARM architecture you need less clock >>>>>>cycles to process one instruction (it's a RISC). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Christophe >>>>> >>>>>I am excited about this. A 2300+ master to carry around in my pocket! Thanks >>>>>Christophe, keep up the great work and great products! >>>> >>>>Exciting? maybe! but will things ever get any better after that (for handhelds)? >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>> >>> >>>Yes. Intel has planned a 1GHz XScale processor (which is a StrongARM compatible >>>processor, so it can be used to power a Palm). >>> >>>After that there will be 2GHz handhelds. >>> >>>After that, we will see 3GHz handhelds. >>> >>>It is expected that handhelds running at 4GHz will come a little bit after. >>> >>>... >>> >>>If you are afraid that your investment is outdated in 2 or 3 month, never buy a >>>computer or a handheld. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>I appologise that I've already repeated my question above before I saw your >>answer here. >> I suppose the problem is in ME. Either I like buying latest models as a hobby, >>or I should know how to be satisfied with what I have, for a long time, and >>concentrate on improving mySELF. I'm just waiting for the middle compromise, >>which might be with Palm 6. But then again, the companies won't be too happy >>about people like me being too satisfied for too long. But don't worry! I'll be >>the one to win, soon, and I'll be happy. Maybe with the 6! >>I mean, what about people who have to die, when will THEY have what they were >>waiting for? (and believe me, many fine people have already died!). >>S.Taylor >> >>p.s. I know someone who has a Palm 3.0 and doesn't dream of getting a new one, >>even though he uses his, every day for work. >> But when I showed him my digital camera module to my Handspring Visor, he >>looked a BIT interested!!!! > > > >I think you are taking the wrong approach. > >Computer technology is not something that you buy and own. > >This economic model is wrong is is used to make people believe that computer >technology is cheap. People fall into the trap because they are used to this >model. > >Computer technology is a subscription: you will pay from time to time to keep >the service uninterrupted. > >What you need to decide is how much you want to spend on computer technology >every year, and then look for the best deals in this framework. > > > > Christophe Very interesting approach. So It's like a club, not something to use. But you are granted the honour of testing it out for a year in return for supporting the companies. Expensive hobby! S.Taylor
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