Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 10:10:16 05/27/02
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On May 26, 2002 at 23:28:38, Christophe Theron wrote: >On May 26, 2002 at 15:55:00, Roy Eassa wrote: > >>On May 26, 2002 at 01:34:59, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On May 25, 2002 at 19:30:29, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On May 24, 2002 at 14:16:41, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 24, 2002 at 07:54:52, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 21:44:40, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:51:23, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>When should it be released? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What are you refering to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To a native StrongARM version of Chess Tiger, or to ARM-based Palms? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>ARM-based Palms. You already said you will come soon after that! >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The ARM based Palms are going to be released this fall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>PalmOS 5 running on the ARM models is currently being demonstrated in a >>>>>>>PalmSource conference in London. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>PalmOS 5 is able to run most of the existing software designed for existing >Palm >>>>>>>models. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And I would like to get my ARM when it is perfected, which might not be the >>>>>>>>first minute the first ones come onto the market. Or WILL it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not sure what your question means. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The first ARM based models will have PalmOS 5 (current models have PalmOS >4.1). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>PalmOS will then evolve to a more StrongARM native version with more >multimedia >>>>>>>and tralala. >>>>>> >>>>>>YES! THAT's IT! The tralala! lalalala >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>It will be called PalmOS 6. My guess is that it will be possible to >>>>>>>install PalmOS 6 in the Palms originally shipped with PalmOS 5 that are going <to >>>>>>>be released this fall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The ROM in the Palms is a flash ROM. So the system can be updated (I have >>>>>>>personally updated from PalmOS 3.1 to PalmOS 3.3 on my PalmIIIx). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You will not be able to update to PalmOS 5 (or 6) if you have a DragonBall >Palm >>>>>>>model (all current models are). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You will most probably be able move to PalmOS 6 if you buy an ARM-based Palm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>After it comes out, how much better might it get after that (would that be >>near >>>>>>>>perfection for all handhelds)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This time I don't understand your question. Maybe you should not use the word >>>>>>>"perfection" when it comes to computers. >>>>>> >>>>>>I'm only human! >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>>But I mean, maybe the speed and space in Palms cannot and need not ever be much >>>>>>more? >>>>>>S.Taylor >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>There is no difference with the PC world. More speed is not really needed but >>>>>people will ask for it and so manufacturers will provide it. Or maybe it is the >>>>>opposite, manufacturers will provide it and people will believe they need it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>Yes, that's exactly what I think sometimes. Only in chess, there IS some use for >>>>it. >>>>But my 1.4 Ghz. AMD proccessor takes just as much time as did my Pentium 1 on >>>>100Mhz. to access windows. >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>> >>> >>>I couldn't agree more with you. >>> >>>Windows is designed to slow down the computer in such a way that when you buy a >>>new computer most of the tasks will not be executed faster with the new >>>computer, simply because it has a newer Windows. >>> >>>The slowdown is disguised as new flashy features (graphics, sounds, shadow under >>>the mouse pointer...) but the end result is that you won't work faster with a >>>new computer (I mean for most people's everyday use). >>> >>>They call it "innovation". >>> >>>The same applies for memory. 16Mb was enough to work several years ago, now you >>>need at least 128Mb (or else your computer is sloooooow). But with your 128Mb >>>you are not going to be more productive than with 16 (I mean for most people). >>> >>>That's progress of a sort, especially for computer makers (helped by OS makers). >>> >>> >> >> >>I usually agree with most of you opinions on these sorts of things, but I differ >>somewhat here. >> >>The ability to rip MP3, play movies at hi-res, and a hundred other advances, are >>REAL improvements. They *do* require a faster CPU, more RAM, more disk space, >>and often a newer OS and a better graphics card. >> >>There are millions of users who may not be interested in these advances; for >>them, sticking with Windows 95 or 3.1 (Or Mac OS 7 or earlier) plus 16 MB of >>RAM; their old software works fine for them. I know numerous people who have >>"frozen" their hardware, software, OS, and capabilities at various historical >>points, ranging from 1994-ish (several friends) to my Mac, which I've purposely >>frozen at Year 1999-2000 levels (can still play MPEGs & rip MP3s nicely & has >>FireWire & 100baseTX). Real work gets done on those systems but they do fall >>behind in some ways as the years go on. It's a tradeoff one can make willingly. > > >I'm exagerating a little bit, but do you disagree completely? From reading what you wrote below, no I don't disagree. You are talking about all the unnecessary extras and with that topic I agree 100%. I mentioned two other points: 1) *some* additions are really useful and do require some upgrades, and 2) most people are free to (and often DO) stop upgrading and continue to use their older hardware/software. If you concur on those two points then I guess we have no disagreement at all! :-) > >There are a number of "features" that are added to the Windows OS (and other >OSes as well BTW) which look innocent at first sight (the shadow under the mouse >pointer), but little by little they make the OS more and more bloated. > >People don't notice, but after a while they realize they have bought a much >faster computer and it does not do most of the tasks faster. Or maybe they do >not realize. > >Playing MPG and MP3 smoothly is possible since several years now. Naturally, if >you add fancy psychedelic graphics to the multimedia player, your 1GHz computer >suddenly seems to be obsolete. > >I think the next step for graphical interfaces is going to be a completely 3D >virtual desktop. You won't be able to do any useful task like typing 3 lines >with NotePad without a 3GHz processor and loads of RAM for the 1600x1200 >Z-Buffer. > >Icon animation will be stored in MPG format in 640x480 just in case you are >using a 3200x2400 screen resolution. Sounds (like the "click" when you open a >submenu) will be stored in 64 bits, 128KHz, 5 ways (so you will actually feel >deep in your bones the sound of your click through that 250W subwoofer installed >at your feet). > >The common "This application has caused a general protection fault" error >message will come with blazing 3D graphics of a crashing window application >involving extremely complex calculations like the ones that have been created by >Lucas studios to simulate the module race in Star Wars episode 1 (remember when >the modules crash and burn?). > >...that's called progress on the solar system's third planet. > > > > Christophe
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