Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:28:38 05/26/02
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On May 26, 2002 at 15:55:00, Roy Eassa wrote:
>On May 26, 2002 at 01:34:59, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On May 25, 2002 at 19:30:29, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2002 at 14:16:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 24, 2002 at 07:54:52, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 21:44:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:51:23, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When should it be released?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What are you refering to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To a native StrongARM version of Chess Tiger, or to ARM-based Palms?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>ARM-based Palms. You already said you will come soon after that!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The ARM based Palms are going to be released this fall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PalmOS 5 running on the ARM models is currently being demonstrated in a
>>>>>>PalmSource conference in London.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PalmOS 5 is able to run most of the existing software designed for existing >Palm
>>>>>>models.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And I would like to get my ARM when it is perfected, which might not be the
>>>>>>>first minute the first ones come onto the market. Or WILL it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not sure what your question means.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The first ARM based models will have PalmOS 5 (current models have PalmOS >4.1).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PalmOS will then evolve to a more StrongARM native version with more >multimedia
>>>>>>and tralala.
>>>>>
>>>>>YES! THAT's IT! The tralala! lalalala
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It will be called PalmOS 6. My guess is that it will be possible to
>>>>>>install PalmOS 6 in the Palms originally shipped with PalmOS 5 that are going <to
>>>>>>be released this fall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The ROM in the Palms is a flash ROM. So the system can be updated (I have
>>>>>>personally updated from PalmOS 3.1 to PalmOS 3.3 on my PalmIIIx).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You will not be able to update to PalmOS 5 (or 6) if you have a DragonBall >Palm
>>>>>>model (all current models are).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You will most probably be able move to PalmOS 6 if you buy an ARM-based Palm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>After it comes out, how much better might it get after that (would that be >>near
>>>>>>>perfection for all handhelds)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This time I don't understand your question. Maybe you should not use the word
>>>>>>"perfection" when it comes to computers.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm only human!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christophe
>>>>>But I mean, maybe the speed and space in Palms cannot and need not ever be much
>>>>>more?
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is no difference with the PC world. More speed is not really needed but
>>>>people will ask for it and so manufacturers will provide it. Or maybe it is the
>>>>opposite, manufacturers will provide it and people will believe they need it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>Yes, that's exactly what I think sometimes. Only in chess, there IS some use for
>>>it.
>>>But my 1.4 Ghz. AMD proccessor takes just as much time as did my Pentium 1 on
>>>100Mhz. to access windows.
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>>
>>I couldn't agree more with you.
>>
>>Windows is designed to slow down the computer in such a way that when you buy a
>>new computer most of the tasks will not be executed faster with the new
>>computer, simply because it has a newer Windows.
>>
>>The slowdown is disguised as new flashy features (graphics, sounds, shadow under
>>the mouse pointer...) but the end result is that you won't work faster with a
>>new computer (I mean for most people's everyday use).
>>
>>They call it "innovation".
>>
>>The same applies for memory. 16Mb was enough to work several years ago, now you
>>need at least 128Mb (or else your computer is sloooooow). But with your 128Mb
>>you are not going to be more productive than with 16 (I mean for most people).
>>
>>That's progress of a sort, especially for computer makers (helped by OS makers).
>>
>>
>
>
>I usually agree with most of you opinions on these sorts of things, but I differ
>somewhat here.
>
>The ability to rip MP3, play movies at hi-res, and a hundred other advances, are
>REAL improvements. They *do* require a faster CPU, more RAM, more disk space,
>and often a newer OS and a better graphics card.
>
>There are millions of users who may not be interested in these advances; for
>them, sticking with Windows 95 or 3.1 (Or Mac OS 7 or earlier) plus 16 MB of
>RAM; their old software works fine for them. I know numerous people who have
>"frozen" their hardware, software, OS, and capabilities at various historical
>points, ranging from 1994-ish (several friends) to my Mac, which I've purposely
>frozen at Year 1999-2000 levels (can still play MPEGs & rip MP3s nicely & has
>FireWire & 100baseTX). Real work gets done on those systems but they do fall
>behind in some ways as the years go on. It's a tradeoff one can make willingly.
I'm exagerating a little bit, but do you disagree completely?
There are a number of "features" that are added to the Windows OS (and other
OSes as well BTW) which look innocent at first sight (the shadow under the mouse
pointer), but little by little they make the OS more and more bloated.
People don't notice, but after a while they realize they have bought a much
faster computer and it does not do most of the tasks faster. Or maybe they do
not realize.
Playing MPG and MP3 smoothly is possible since several years now. Naturally, if
you add fancy psychedelic graphics to the multimedia player, your 1GHz computer
suddenly seems to be obsolete.
I think the next step for graphical interfaces is going to be a completely 3D
virtual desktop. You won't be able to do any useful task like typing 3 lines
with NotePad without a 3GHz processor and loads of RAM for the 1600x1200
Z-Buffer.
Icon animation will be stored in MPG format in 640x480 just in case you are
using a 3200x2400 screen resolution. Sounds (like the "click" when you open a
submenu) will be stored in 64 bits, 128KHz, 5 ways (so you will actually feel
deep in your bones the sound of your click through that 250W subwoofer installed
at your feet).
The common "This application has caused a general protection fault" error
message will come with blazing 3D graphics of a crashing window application
involving extremely complex calculations like the ones that have been created by
Lucas studios to simulate the module race in Star Wars episode 1 (remember when
the modules crash and burn?).
...that's called progress on the solar system's third planet.
Christophe
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