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Subject: Re: When should ARM be on the market?

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 12:55:00 05/26/02

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On May 26, 2002 at 01:34:59, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On May 25, 2002 at 19:30:29, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2002 at 14:16:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2002 at 07:54:52, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 21:44:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 23, 2002 at 20:51:23, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>When should it be released?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What are you refering to?
>>>>>
>>>>>To a native StrongARM version of Chess Tiger, or to ARM-based Palms?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>ARM-based Palms. You already said you will come soon after that!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The ARM based Palms are going to be released this fall.
>>>>>
>>>>>PalmOS 5 running on the ARM models is currently being demonstrated in a
>>>>>PalmSource conference in London.
>>>>>
>>>>>PalmOS 5 is able to run most of the existing software designed for existing >Palm
>>>>>models.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>And I would like to get my ARM when it is perfected, which might not be the
>>>>>>first minute the first ones come onto the market. Or WILL it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Not sure what your question means.
>>>>>
>>>>>The first ARM based models will have PalmOS 5 (current models have PalmOS >4.1).
>>>>>
>>>>>PalmOS will then evolve to a more StrongARM native version with more >multimedia
>>>>>and tralala.
>>>>
>>>>YES! THAT's IT! The tralala! lalalala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It will be called PalmOS 6. My guess is that it will be possible to
>>>>>install PalmOS 6 in the Palms originally shipped with PalmOS 5 that are going <to
>>>>>be released this fall.
>>>>>
>>>>>The ROM in the Palms is a flash ROM. So the system can be updated (I have
>>>>>personally updated from PalmOS 3.1 to PalmOS 3.3 on my PalmIIIx).
>>>>>
>>>>>You will not be able to update to PalmOS 5 (or 6) if you have a DragonBall >Palm
>>>>>model (all current models are).
>>>>>
>>>>>You will most probably be able move to PalmOS 6 if you buy an ARM-based Palm.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>After it comes out, how much better might it get after that (would that be >>near
>>>>>>perfection for all handhelds)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This time I don't understand your question. Maybe you should not use the word
>>>>>"perfection" when it comes to computers.
>>>>
>>>>I'm only human!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>But I mean, maybe the speed and space in Palms cannot and need not ever be much
>>>>more?
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>There is no difference with the PC world. More speed is not really needed but
>>>people will ask for it and so manufacturers will provide it. Or maybe it is the
>>>opposite, manufacturers will provide it and people will believe they need it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>Yes, that's exactly what I think sometimes. Only in chess, there IS some use for
>>it.
>>But my 1.4 Ghz. AMD proccessor takes just as much time as did my Pentium 1 on
>>100Mhz. to access windows.
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>
>I couldn't agree more with you.
>
>Windows is designed to slow down the computer in such a way that when you buy a
>new computer most of the tasks will not be executed faster with the new
>computer, simply because it has a newer Windows.
>
>The slowdown is disguised as new flashy features (graphics, sounds, shadow under
>the mouse pointer...) but the end result is that you won't work faster with a
>new computer (I mean for most people's everyday use).
>
>They call it "innovation".
>
>The same applies for memory. 16Mb was enough to work several years ago, now you
>need at least 128Mb (or else your computer is sloooooow). But with your 128Mb
>you are not going to be more productive than with 16 (I mean for most people).
>
>That's progress of a sort, especially for computer makers (helped by OS makers).
>
>


I usually agree with most of you opinions on these sorts of things, but I differ
somewhat here.

The ability to rip MP3, play movies at hi-res, and a hundred other advances, are
REAL improvements.  They *do* require a faster CPU, more RAM, more disk space,
and often a newer OS and a better graphics card.

There are millions of users who may not be interested in these advances; for
them, sticking with Windows 95 or 3.1 (Or Mac OS 7 or earlier) plus 16 MB of
RAM; their old software works fine for them.  I know numerous people who have
"frozen" their hardware, software, OS, and capabilities at various historical
points, ranging from 1994-ish (several friends) to my Mac, which I've purposely
frozen at Year 1999-2000 levels (can still play MPEGs & rip MP3s nicely & has
FireWire & 100baseTX).  Real work gets done on those systems but they do fall
behind in some ways as the years go on.  It's a tradeoff one can make willingly.



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