Author: Robert Henry Durrett
Date: 13:11:09 06/18/02
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On June 18, 2002 at 13:21:02, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >Windows 2000 Datacenter Server supports up to 32 processors. Take a look at >http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/datacenter/evaluation/business/overview/default.asp > >You can buy such a system from Unisys. >http://www.unisys.com/products/es7000__servers/index.htm > >Of course such system will cost you arm and leg... I will purchase one of these next Spring if it will do the job, contingent on it's suitability for running Deep Fritz or another comparable chess program. It will have to be FAST to get my money. More information later. Bob D. > >Regards, >Eugene > >On June 18, 2002 at 12:58:49, pavel wrote: > >>On June 18, 2002 at 12:38:51, Robert Henry Durrett wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 2002 at 11:20:13, pavel wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>why bother, when you can use a windows OS on these platforms? >>>>>>besides it is clear that the curent fastest 64bit processor is not faster than >>>>>>the current fastest 32 bit. >>>>> >>>>>This has been discussed in other threads. The 64 bit processor may be able to >>>>>do more "useful work" in a single clock cycle than the current 32 bit processors >>>>>can do, depending on the design of the processor. Clock rate is not a true >>>>>indication of the amount of useful work that can be done in a given amount of >>>>>time. In other words, a 64 bit processor, if properly utilized by the >>>>>programmer, may be preferable over a 32 bit processor with a faster clock rate. >>>>>We have different KINDS of processors to consider, too. >>>>> >>>> >>>>I know that, but still the fastest available 64bit processor with the fastest >>>>available proccessor speed (perhaps 1ghz) is not yet faster than the fastest >>>>available 32bit processor at the fastest available clock speed (2.5ghz by intel >>>>or 2100+ by AMD). >>>> >>>>That is also aplicable for chess programs. >>>>so there is no point of using 64bit processor because it is not yet faster, let >>>>alone the other complications. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Even if they want to use 64bit, they can use windows, no need to get UNIX, or >>>>>>port it on UNIX. >>>>> >>>>>Again, "discussed already in other threads." Whether or not there is a need >>>>>depends on availability of the necessary hardware, including boards. The >>>>>required availability is in doubt. It is not clear to me that the necessary >>>>>hardware is available for a Windows implementation. >>>> >>>>Yes there is a windows2000 64bit version already available. >>> >>>My understanding was that no version of Windows would work on an 8-processor >>>computer at this time. The "Windows XP Professional, 64-bit Edition," for >>>example, is currently good only for dual computers [as of earlier this year]. I >>>am not sure if this has changed recently, however. I cannot say about Windows >>>2000. Are you absolutely SURE it would work on an 8-processor computer? >>> >>>I know Microsoft advertises that they will support the Itanium line of Intel >>>processors, so it would just be a matter of time before a 64-bit version of >>>Windows would be available for 8-processor Itanium [Madison] computers. But >>>that's not till next Spring. >>> >>>Bob D. >> >>Windowsxp is not a server standard OS yet. I dont know anyone who is using >>Windowsxp for servers. >>One would expect a 64bit processors to be used only for server side work mostly. >>Windows2000 Adv. is currently the server standard from MS. >> >>Mckinley was being sold with win2k pre-installed. I dont know if win2k supports >>8processor system (why shouldnt it?), but than again, we dont have that type of >>system existing currently to support. >> >>So we dont even have a 8-processor system yet for Chessbase to use :) >> >> >>cheers, >>pavs
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