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Subject: Re: Additional rules for wmccc

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:39:19 06/22/02

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On June 22, 2002 at 17:49:02, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On June 22, 2002 at 13:20:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2002 at 09:55:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>What i understand Bob is that he wrote the code, not the
>>EGTBs, and later claimed copyright on the code when commercial
>>usage would be made with it.
>>
>
>This doesn't make a lot of sense. Nobody needs to "claim" copyright for
>something he has written. The copyright belongs to the author, irrespective
>of whether they "claim" it anywhere. The only exceptions to this are:
>
>(a) It's written under a contract which stipulates that the copyright is granted
>elsewhere.
>
>(b) The author *explicitly* relinquishes the copyright to the code (this is
>sometimes known as "putting it in the public domain").
>
>Andrew

What i understand is that he had put the code, before he put his claim,
in the public domain.

Regardless of that, my opinion on this subject regarding a world champ
is that everyone should have his own code to access EGTBs. If those are
as complicated as nalimov (no clear description how they are compressed,
the code is unreadable and there is no 'blueprint' with exact specifications
how the egtb scheme is), then obviously that means using your own format
EGTBs.

Having your own generator is another question IMHO. Though i have my own
and i know many who have one of their own (though most do not go further
than 5 stone generation), it's obviously also a desired thing to have.

>
>
>
>>>On June 21, 2002 at 12:42:43, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 21, 2002 at 12:01:46, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The rule is not taylor-made for commercial companies.
>>>>
>>>>But by some amazing coincidence it has the very fortunate
>>>>side-effect that Jeroen Noomen or Alexander Kure can supply
>>>>the entire Rebel/ChessBase family of programs of opening books.
>>>>
>>>>(Most notably the Burtus/Fritz combination, which would
>>>>otherwhise have been a major headache for them)
>>>>
>>>>'Huh'
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>
>>>I think an answer would be for Eugene to say "no commercial program may use
>>>my endgame tables in any chess tournament or event."  _then_ the commercial
>>>guys might "get it".  It is ok for _them_ to use stuff they didn't create.
>>>But the pipe only flows one way in that world.
>>>
>>>Again, I am for the "everybody uses it or only one program uses it" approach.
>>>
>>>Anything else is flawed in a basic way.



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