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Subject: Re: Additional rules for wmccc

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:09:04 06/22/02

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On June 22, 2002 at 20:39:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 22, 2002 at 17:49:02, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2002 at 13:20:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On June 22, 2002 at 09:55:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>What i understand Bob is that he wrote the code, not the
>>>EGTBs, and later claimed copyright on the code when commercial
>>>usage would be made with it.
>>>
>>
>>This doesn't make a lot of sense. Nobody needs to "claim" copyright for
>>something he has written. The copyright belongs to the author, irrespective
>>of whether they "claim" it anywhere. The only exceptions to this are:
>>
>>(a) It's written under a contract which stipulates that the copyright is granted
>>elsewhere.
>>
>>(b) The author *explicitly* relinquishes the copyright to the code (this is
>>sometimes known as "putting it in the public domain").
>>
>>Andrew
>
>What i understand is that he had put the code, before he put his claim,
>in the public domain.

It doesn't matter.  He can give it away, then change his mind later and
it is perfectly legal for him to do so.  He _never_ gave away the "copyright"
which is the thing that is important.


>
>Regardless of that, my opinion on this subject regarding a world champ
>is that everyone should have his own code to access EGTBs. If those are
>as complicated as nalimov (no clear description how they are compressed,
>the code is unreadable and there is no 'blueprint' with exact specifications
>how the egtb scheme is), then obviously that means using your own format
>EGTBs.
>
>Having your own generator is another question IMHO. Though i have my own
>and i know many who have one of their own (though most do not go further
>than 5 stone generation), it's obviously also a desired thing to have.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>On June 21, 2002 at 12:42:43, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 21, 2002 at 12:01:46, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The rule is not taylor-made for commercial companies.
>>>>>
>>>>>But by some amazing coincidence it has the very fortunate
>>>>>side-effect that Jeroen Noomen or Alexander Kure can supply
>>>>>the entire Rebel/ChessBase family of programs of opening books.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Most notably the Burtus/Fritz combination, which would
>>>>>otherwhise have been a major headache for them)
>>>>>
>>>>>'Huh'
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think an answer would be for Eugene to say "no commercial program may use
>>>>my endgame tables in any chess tournament or event."  _then_ the commercial
>>>>guys might "get it".  It is ok for _them_ to use stuff they didn't create.
>>>>But the pipe only flows one way in that world.
>>>>
>>>>Again, I am for the "everybody uses it or only one program uses it" approach.
>>>>
>>>>Anything else is flawed in a basic way.



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