Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:09:04 06/22/02
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On June 22, 2002 at 20:39:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On June 22, 2002 at 17:49:02, Andrew Williams wrote: > >>On June 22, 2002 at 13:20:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On June 22, 2002 at 09:55:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>What i understand Bob is that he wrote the code, not the >>>EGTBs, and later claimed copyright on the code when commercial >>>usage would be made with it. >>> >> >>This doesn't make a lot of sense. Nobody needs to "claim" copyright for >>something he has written. The copyright belongs to the author, irrespective >>of whether they "claim" it anywhere. The only exceptions to this are: >> >>(a) It's written under a contract which stipulates that the copyright is granted >>elsewhere. >> >>(b) The author *explicitly* relinquishes the copyright to the code (this is >>sometimes known as "putting it in the public domain"). >> >>Andrew > >What i understand is that he had put the code, before he put his claim, >in the public domain. It doesn't matter. He can give it away, then change his mind later and it is perfectly legal for him to do so. He _never_ gave away the "copyright" which is the thing that is important. > >Regardless of that, my opinion on this subject regarding a world champ >is that everyone should have his own code to access EGTBs. If those are >as complicated as nalimov (no clear description how they are compressed, >the code is unreadable and there is no 'blueprint' with exact specifications >how the egtb scheme is), then obviously that means using your own format >EGTBs. > >Having your own generator is another question IMHO. Though i have my own >and i know many who have one of their own (though most do not go further >than 5 stone generation), it's obviously also a desired thing to have. > >> >> >> >>>>On June 21, 2002 at 12:42:43, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 21, 2002 at 12:01:46, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>The rule is not taylor-made for commercial companies. >>>>> >>>>>But by some amazing coincidence it has the very fortunate >>>>>side-effect that Jeroen Noomen or Alexander Kure can supply >>>>>the entire Rebel/ChessBase family of programs of opening books. >>>>> >>>>>(Most notably the Burtus/Fritz combination, which would >>>>>otherwhise have been a major headache for them) >>>>> >>>>>'Huh' >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>GCP >>>> >>>> >>>>I think an answer would be for Eugene to say "no commercial program may use >>>>my endgame tables in any chess tournament or event." _then_ the commercial >>>>guys might "get it". It is ok for _them_ to use stuff they didn't create. >>>>But the pipe only flows one way in that world. >>>> >>>>Again, I am for the "everybody uses it or only one program uses it" approach. >>>> >>>>Anything else is flawed in a basic way.
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