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Subject: Re: Computer chess tournaments and hardware

Author: Robert Henry Durrett

Date: 18:20:11 07/02/02

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On July 02, 2002 at 20:42:16, Russell Reagan wrote:

>Which computer chess tournaments have hardware limitations and which are
>"anything goes"?
>
>To me, a tournament between computers where "anything goes" is meaningless.

Although a more or less agree with the general thrust of your bulletin, I think
it would be a mistake to assume that NOTHING good could come out of the wccc
competitions.

>If
>it is a computer vs. human, then that is something entirely different I think.
>What does taking a super computer to a tournament and winning against (possibly
>superior) engines running on slower hardware prove?

An interesting question.  Perhaps it would provide some information regarding
how much difference better hardware could be expected to make.

>To me it doesn't prove
>anything other than you had the money to win a tournament. To me that doesn't
>imply that any engine was better than another if it's anything goes.

But what if DIEP loses?

>IBM could
>build another super computer and run an alpha-beta search with piece-square
>table evaluation and win the "world championship", and it hasn't proved that it
>was the best engine.
>
>Is anyone else turned off my a competition between computers where it's open
>hardware?

No, but it is a "different ball game" from competitions where the hardware is
equivalent.  I like watching different kinds of ball games.  Baseball, football,
tennis, etc.

>I don't think it proves a thing as far as which engine is better.

Unless DIEP loses!

>I
>guess it depends which aspect you are interestd in. If you're interested in
>hardware, then you probably like the open hardware competitions. If you're
>interested in AI in computer chess, then you're probably more likely to enjoy an
>equal hardware competition. To me a competition that can be bought doesn't mean
>anything.

Oops!  Those are "fighting words!"  Watch out!  Vincent will zap you for that.

>It might as well just be a bidding process to see who is the next
>"champion".
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Russell

I look forward to hearing the details about how, and to what extent, DIEP had to
be modified to make it work well on the 1024-processor computer.

Bob D.



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