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Subject: Re: Computer chess tournaments and hardware

Author: pavel

Date: 18:41:53 07/02/02

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On July 02, 2002 at 20:42:16, Russell Reagan wrote:

>Which computer chess tournaments have hardware limitations and which are
>"anything goes"?
>
>To me, a tournament between computers where "anything goes" is meaningless. If
>it is a computer vs. human, then that is something entirely different I think.
>What does taking a super computer to a tournament and winning against (possibly
>superior) engines running on slower hardware prove? To me it doesn't prove
>anything other than you had the money to win a tournament. To me that doesn't
>imply that any engine was better than another if it's anything goes. IBM could
>build another super computer and run an alpha-beta search with piece-square
>table evaluation and win the "world championship", and it hasn't proved that it
>was the best engine.
>
>Is anyone else turned off my a competition between computers where it's open
>hardware? I don't think it proves a thing as far as which engine is better. I
>guess it depends which aspect you are interestd in. If you're interested in
>hardware, then you probably like the open hardware competitions. If you're
>interested in AI in computer chess, then you're probably more likely to enjoy an
>equal hardware competition. To me a competition that can be bought doesn't mean
>anything. It might as well just be a bidding process to see who is the next
>"champion".
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Russell


First of all, IMO all tournaments are meaningless, not only open-platform.
Because, rarely does the most strongest program win the tournament.

So if you want to organize a tournament, with many programs using the same
hardware, with the hope that the strongest one will win, then it is very likely
that it won't happen.

not to mention, a tournament with the same hardware has the complication for the
organizers to supply that many "same" hardware. It can be "expensive".
Though I am not sure how they deal with it.

To me open-platform has more interest than same-platform, because new ideas and
programs develop with interesting hardware, ie, Brutus, CB, Belle etc.

I personally don't think that DIEP will win, though it will be interesting to
watch, nevertheless.


The main point: The best engine doesn't always win the tournament.

cheers,
pavs



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