Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:52:51 07/15/02
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On July 15, 2002 at 08:10:10, Omid David wrote: >On July 15, 2002 at 07:36:08, GuyHaworth wrote: > >> >>Deep Blue II beat Kasparov fair and square ... GK should not imply otherwise if >>he is. >> >>However, he is probably correct in saying that silicon chess players are not yet >>as good as carbon ones. >> >>The misguided impression that computers are now better than the best humans has, >>in the recent past, arguably subtracted interested from: >> >>a) computer-computer chess >> >>b) computer-human chess, and maybe even >> >>c) human-human chess. >> >>Maybe FIDE, the ICGA and Kasparov together should correct that impression, and >>jointly declare that: >> >>a) the comparison of the best human and computer chess players is still an >>'open question' and that > >It's not an 'open question'! as Smirin recently proved, humans are still far >superior than computers. Kasparov's loss was a terrible bad luck (+ dirty tricks >on IBM's behalf). > >I strongly believe that all chess programs are dump, not being able to see some >of the obvious positional elements in a position. If a chess program like Junior >or Fritz loses 5 games in 100 to me (2250 Elo), it means that computers are by >no means superior to humans. (I certainly won't be able to beat a 2700 Elo Human >5 times in 100 matches!) I agree that computers today are not better than humans but the fact that you can beat programs 5 out of 100 games is not a proof that computers are not superior. You can also do the same against a player that play perfect in 95% of the games and at the level of 1600 at 5% of the games but this player can win a match against every human. I also doubt if you can show me a position from your games when all the chess programs are dumb. There is more than 100 free chess programs and I suspect that even if Fritz or Junior are dumb one of the free chess program may be not dumb in the relevant position. Uri
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