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Subject: Re: "World" Championship in North America ... Semi-Formal Announcement.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:27:41 07/16/02

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On July 16, 2002 at 17:56:28, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 16, 2002 at 16:55:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2002 at 16:09:27, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On July 16, 2002 at 15:37:52, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 16, 2002 at 14:24:24, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Require logs, a copy of the official tournament binary, a copy of the official
>>>>>tournament book, and mail the logs immediately after completion of every game.
>>>>
>>>>I think the latter combined with online kibitzing would be enough. We aren't
>>>>talking about al-Qaeda here. It would certainly be a higher standard as in
>>>>today's live tournaments IMHO.
>>>
>>>I am actually a bit nervous about the online kibitzing.
>>>
>>>Is it possible to use a modified version of Winboard to feed back the opponent's
>>>plan in order to ponder correctly 100% of the time?
>>>
>>>It would also be possible to see what the expected response to the pv move is,
>>>which is a second advantage.
>>
>>
>>Then we do "whisper" instead so that the players don't see but the spectators
>>and TD do...  I can also think of other counter-measures such as kibitzing bad
>>info as well as good info to confuse the opponent if it is trying to parse that
>>for bad purposes.
>
>But if the whisper is not what the program does, then I think that would raise
>suspicion.


I could think of solutions.  IE I will tell folks after the round starts
"if you see a whisper with this unique string in it, then do not believe it,
it is a 'counter-measure' in case the other program is listening."

Or, as I said, just use whisper which the opponent can't see directly.  Of
course a "guest" could log on and observe the game, and see the whispers
which could be electronically relayed to the program, but that is getting
pretty complex and the server admins could see this going on...   IE we
could make it illegal for _any_ "tells" to be directed toward an active
player...



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