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Subject: Re: North American Open 2003.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:59:20 07/17/02

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On July 17, 2002 at 08:55:15, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 17, 2002 at 06:27:20, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On July 17, 2002 at 05:56:52, Nicolas GUIBERT wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>After reading the posts of others, I think that one thing should be made clear.
>>>>I think you should decide what kind of tournament this is going to be, then
>>>>develop the rest of it around it. For example, if it was going to be a "world
>>>>championship", then (IMO) the goal is to determine the best engine in the world.
>>>>If that is your goal, I would expect longer time controls...
>>>
>>>NO NO NO
>>>
>>>If you want to try and determine the best engine, do not play at longer time
>>>controls !!!!!!
>>>
>>>BUT... Do play a lot more games with shorter time controls.
>>>
>>>Then you will get a more reliable result !
>>>
>>>I have never understood why computer chess competitions are so slow. For human
>>>players, this is understandable. For computers, it is just nonsense. I believe
>>>that this has to do with history. The first competitions had to be played slowly
>>>because the computers were terribly bad at Chess (low depths)... But that was 20
>>>years ago ! Computer science evolved quite a bit since then.
>>>
>>>Do you like playing random tournaments or do you really want to get an accurate
>>>picture of the computer chess landscape ?
>>
>>Absolutely.  The biggest problem (as I see it) is the quality of the games with
>>the longer time controls.  After all, we won't see any brilliancies like these
>>at G/90 or slower on fast hardware:
>>
>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>[Site "DANNFAST"]
>>[Date "2001.07.28"]
>>[Round "2"]
>>[White "Beowulf-16b"]
>>[Black "ExChess-311"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "B12a"]
>>[Variation "Caro-Kann: 2.d4"]
>>[TimeControl "15"]
>>
>>1. e4 c6 2. d4 f6 3. f4 h6 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Qxg6# 1-0
>
>Does exchess play 2...f6 after 1.e4 c6 2.d4?

I analyzed the position after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 by the chessbase version of
exchess3.11

Exchess cannot find the move f6 even at depth 1.

New game - Deep Fritz
rnbqkbnr/pp1ppppp/2p5/8/3PP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 0 1

Analysis by EXchess 3.11:

2...d5
  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
2...d5
  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
2...d5 3.Nc3
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
2...d5 3.Nc3
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
2...d5 3.Nc3 e6
  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
2...d5 3.Nc3 e6
  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
2...d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bd3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 4   00:00:00  1kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bd3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 4   00:00:00  2kN
2...d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bb5+ Nd7
  ²  (0.45)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  5kN
2...Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bd3
  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  11kN
2...Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bd3
  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  12kN
2...Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bd3 e6 5.Nf3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  24kN
2...Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bd3 e6 5.Nf3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  39kN
2...Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.exd5 cxd5 5.Bb5+ Nbd7
  ²  (0.45)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  63kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 e6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Bd3
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  103kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 e6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Bd3
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  120kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.exd5 cxd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  235kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.exd5 cxd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bb5
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  301kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bg5 Be7
  ²  (0.32)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  540kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bg5 Be7
  ²  (0.32)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  654kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 e6 4.exd5 exd5 5.Bd3 Bd6 6.Nf3 Qe7+ 7.Be3
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 10   00:00:05  1580kN
2...d5 3.Nc3 e6 4.exd5 exd5 5.Bd3 Bd6 6.Nf3 Qe7+ 7.Be3
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 10   00:00:07  2188kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 17.07.2002)

Uri



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