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Subject: Re: North American Open Wish List

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:55:43 07/18/02

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On July 17, 2002 at 09:15:51, David Dory wrote:

You guys are all passing the most important point.

The first and most important thing to figure out is finding
an organizer and at the same time finding a sponsor for it.

That requirement is so very important that it is completely useless all
the postings here. If you have an organizer and a sponsor, then the
rest is not a peanut but it's only 0.00000000000001% of the effort of
finding a sponsor + organizer.

Right now it's an water balloon this whole north american chatter.

>1) No Qualifying Rounds - the more the merrier. If you really want qualifying
>   rounds, make it apply ONLY to non American (North or North & South),
>   programs.
>
>2) Emphasize America's Region (either North or North & South). We want to build
>   our region up. Limiting participation of programs from other area's will
>   help make that possible. Spending a lot of funds on air-fair for non-
>   Americans will spread the regional support down to almost nothing. As stated
>   by others, it can also choke your tournament to death.
>
>   How many American programs were sponsored to enter the Austrailian or WCCC
>   tournaments? We would be wise to follow that same path.
>
>   I'd love to see all the programs there, from ALL over the world, but that
>   can't be hugely supported in this first regional tournament. I'm sure the
>   sponsorship won't be THAT good.
>
>   I believe the World Championship should be the place for these programs from
>   all over the world to come and compete - not necessarily the America's
>   tournament.
>
>   We don't need or want a "World Championship" - yet. First, we need a good
>   regional tournament, lots of entrants, lots of programmers. If we make it
>   good, and build up CC in America, later we can have a WCCC over here. Saying
>   we're going to have a WCCC now, without any recognition, or any recent
>   tournament evidence, would be an unfunny joke.
>
>3) Emphasize Categories -
>   Open Titles:
>   ============================================
>   Open Champ
>   Open Amateur Champ
>
>   North (or North & South) American Titles:
>   ============================================
>   North (or North & South) American Champ
>   North        "               "    Amatuer Champ
>   Young Programmer Champ - Under 25 years (building up interest and motivation
>   in our younger programmers)
>   Brilliancy Award - Commercial and Amateur
>   Best Amateur Single CPU program
>   Best Blitz program
>   Etc.
>
>   The categories help the American programs compete in a way that will
>   motivate their future improvement and prevent them from
>   being steam-rollered by the European programs.
>
>4) A good IM or GM to discuss the games subtleties in the final decisive games
>   I thought Mike Valvo and David Levy added HUGELY to the ACM CC events.
>
>   As in Maastricht, would be great if he could play a simul or ??.
>
>5) Game in 90 minutes makes for easy scheduling and many rounds - I like it.
>   With the horsepower of today's PC's, this should be fine. For scheduling,
>   it's VERY important that the games NOT be allowed to drag on and on!!
>
>6) NO adjudicated games! :)
>
>I believe this should be shaped as a fast-moving, regional championship, (Not a
>world championship), emphasizing categories for amateur and young programmers,
>particularly from the America's. While other's are welcome to compete in the
>Open category, this should NOT be a "Euro Championship held in North America".
>
>If we don't take this opportunity to help build up our regional CC interest,
>and our young CC programmers, we'll have bungled this badly.
>
>As much as I would love to see the programs and programmers from all over the
>world come here to compete - this is just NOT the time to try and do that.
>As soon as you start talking dollars, you'll see this, clearly.
>
>This CC "baby" can't even walk yet, trying to fit it with "track shoes" is just
>silly.
>
>David



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