Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Deep Blue Jr.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:59:50 07/20/02

Go up one level in this thread


On July 20, 2002 at 06:43:44, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On July 20, 2002 at 02:39:45, Uri Blass wrote:
>>It is possible that they could get 2 productive changes:
>>
>>1)Add null move pruning
>>2)Not use the singular extensions.
>>
>>It is possible that 2 is not productive without 1 and
>>if they did not start by testing 2, they got the wrong conclusions.
>>
>>Did somebody try to test crafty with their algorithm
>>(no null move pruning and singular extensions)?
>>
>>I guess that it is going to be clearly weaker than
>>the Crafty of today at 120/40 time control.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I think IBM was playing it safe.
>They could have taken more chances, adding nullmove probably would have made it
>even stronger, but imagine the embarrasment for them if it failed to see a
>simple combination like a mate in 1 :)

I do not see how you can miss a mate in 1 with null move.
You can miss mate in 2 but not mate in 1.

It is also possible to do a verification search to reduced depth
only to see that you do not miss a big zunzwang.

The problem here is that changing the alpha and the beta value
can give you wrong information in the history tables and
in the killer moves so I may need to do a special search to
reduced depth without updating the killer move and the
history tables.

Uri



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.