Author: Bas Hamstra
Date: 15:54:11 08/25/02
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On August 25, 2002 at 11:54:49, Jeroen Noomen wrote: >On August 25, 2002 at 09:52:49, Bas Hamstra wrote: > >>Did Frans Morsch develop the Fritz book himself? No, he has help from top->specialists. Same for Tiger and Rebel. Now is THAT fair? Competing in CC >tournments,supposedly meant to determine which ENGINE is strongest, where the >happy few have the fulltime help of book specialists, but NOT the lousy >amateurs? > >So why don't you hire an openingbook expert yourself? Do the same thing as >Fritz >and all the other pro's do? You simply say 'hey, pro's have an advantage, so I >take their stuff to get even on them'. And you know VERY well Bas, that good >openinglines are very very important for a chess program and it is included in >the product. Computer chess is not 'Engine only'. I know many programmers would >like it to be different, but the harsh truth is different: Openings are >important. Very important. I never implied otherwise. But you make "take their stuff" sound like I steal it. But what if I BOUGHT it? >And to ask you a question: If I use your statement, I can download Tao and >enter it in a tournament saying it is mine. Would you like that? I bet you >don't. That's not the same. THIS is the same: 1000 copies of Tao being sold. The buyers own their copy, and if there was a guy with a super-book and he used his copy+book in a tournament under the name SuperChess I would have no problem with that. He bought it, he owns his copy. He can do with it what he likes. He can use the CD as a frisbee for his dog, play at a server, or compete in tournaments. I don't care :-) >>The copyright issue is also not easy at all. Does anyone seriously think Jeroen >>Noomen does NOT look at other books? How come ALL the obscure, speculative, >>tricky, HAND-TYPED Cock the Gorter lines are in other commercial books INCLUDING >>the refutations? Vincent noticed this, and so do I. Technically, if I copy an >>existing book "collection" and add three new lines, it's MY collection. Ask the >>juro's. > >I can tell you that the testing of books, countering lines of opponents, >getting >the best lines for yourself, anticipating what the opponents might do is a VERY >VERY difficult job. Don't think that this is easy to do. As far as the Cock the >Gorter book is concerned: I don't have this book, but if I see some game of Tao >in which a speculative line is being played and it is not covered well in the >Tiger book, I repair it. THAT'S what a good bookexpert is doing, dear Bas. > >I just want to say: Come to my home some day and I'll show you how the work is >done. And then I am sure you'll think differently afterwards. Invitation stands :-) Best regards, Bas.
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