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Subject: Re: [DB] Some data from the logfiles

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 01:34:16 08/27/02

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On August 25, 2002 at 23:39:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 25, 2002 at 21:56:03, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2002 at 16:09:07, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 22, 2002 at 15:51:28, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 22, 2002 at 06:47:34, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>That does not make sense - it only does when you take the first number as
>>>>>the nominal ply depth and the second number as the part of that that was
>>>>>done by the hardware searches.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So what does it mean when you have searches like this,
>>>>
>>>>-->  17.   Be3 <-- 23/113:12
>>>>---------------------------------------
>>>>Guessing Qc7
>>>> 3(4) 25  T=0
>>>>qd1d2 Pc5c4 pb3c4P
>>>> 4(5) 25  T=0
>>>>qd1d2 Pc5c4 pb3c4P
>>>> 5(5)[Qd2](25) 25  T=1
>>>>qd1d2 Pc5c4 pb3c4P
>>>> 6(5)[Qd2](25) 25  T=2
>>>>qd1d2 Pc5c4 pb3c4P Qc7c4p
>>>> 7(5) #[Qd2](28)##################################### 28  T=4
>>>>qd1d2 Re8b8 nf3e5P Pd6e5n
>>>> 8(6) #[Qd2](28)##################################### 28  T=12
>>>>qd1d2 Re8b8 bc2d3 Pa6a5 pc3c4
>>>> 9(6)<ch> 'ng6'
>>>>---------------------------------------
>>>>--> Ne7g6 <--
>>>>---------------------------------------
>>>> 28  T=19
>>>>qd1d2
>>>> 3(4)[Qd2](30) 30^ T=1
>>>>qd1d2 Pc5c4 pb3c4P Pb5c4p
>>>> 3(5) 35  T=1
>>>>qd1d2 Qd8c7 pb3b4 Pc5c4 be3h6P
>>>> 4(5) 35  T=1
>>>>qd1d2 Pa6a5 pa2a3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>where you have depths like 3(4)?  They can't have 3 nominal plies, where 4 of
>>>>those plies come from the hardware, because obviously that's impossible.
>>>
>>>A good question.
>>>
>>>I do not understand the meaning of the second mnumber
>>>but the first number is clearly the brute force depth based on their paper.
>>>
>>>Maybe the second number is about some limit about the extensions but OI do not
>>>know.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Uh, is that what you guys are all discussing _again_?
>>
>>Sheesh.
>>
>>The first number is the depth of the software search.  The second number is the
>>depth of the hardware search.  I posted this _years_ ago after asking a member
>>of the DB team directly: check the archives.
>>
>>Dave
>
>That is what I was told also.  However, a fairly new paper really clouds the
>issue in that they mix depths between DB2 in the 1997 match, DB Jr on slower
>hardware, etc...
>
>I think that the only explanation for the (x) number is the one given by the
>team to me.  And apparently to you as well, and probably others that simply
>don't post here...

Often when they refer to their search tree they refer to the software depth
only.  Which paper is causing the kerfuffle?

Dave




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