Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 09:51:37 08/27/02
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On August 27, 2002 at 11:47:03, Christophe Theron wrote: >On August 27, 2002 at 07:57:40, Steve Coladonato wrote: > >>On August 26, 2002 at 23:59:03, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On August 26, 2002 at 14:10:25, Steve Coladonato wrote: >>> >>>>On August 26, 2002 at 11:15:26, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 26, 2002 at 07:08:40, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 26, 2002 at 02:51:44, Lei , Shiann-Tzong wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My internet friend tell me , his Fritz7 can run under Linux >>>>>>>via x windows interface , But , I have tried it , and can not do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Who can tell me , if it can be done or not ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My internet friend use a dual computer with a mandrake linux 8.2 . >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards ., >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Lei , Shiann-Tzong @ TAIWAN >>>>>> >>>>>>What is the benefit to run Fritz 7 or any other Chesss Programs under Linux, if >>>>>>it was NOT meant to run under that operating system? When an airplane is >>>>>>designed to run with JP8 , I would not care if it run under any other fuel. I am >>>>>>not saying that Linux 8.2 is not a good operating system, simply what I am >>>>>>saying is, that it wasn't written to run under Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pichard. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The idea is to get rid of the closed, buggy, lousy, bloated, virus-like, >>>>>expensive OS called Windows. >>>>> >>>>>If you don't see the point, I can tell you that *I* can see it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>> >>>>That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Now when can we expect to see >>>>commercial programs available for Linux? CA is written with Borland's >>>>programming environment and Borland has released a version of the environment >>>>for Linux. I would expect to see a CA for Linux but it hasn't happened yet. >>>> >>>>I believe ChessMaster is entrenched in the Windows environment and probably >>>>would require a major rewrite as would Fritz, Shredder, et al. >>>> >>>>Right now, the Xboard engines and SCID are where it's at on Linux. And it ain't >>>>too bad. >>>> >>>>Steve >>> >>> >>> >>>I'm investing some of my time in Linux. I *will* produce a version of the Chess >>>Tiger engine for Linux, as soon as possible (probably sometime in 2003). Maybe >>>in the form of a XBoard engine. >>> >>>I think that the first releases of Chess Tiger for Linux will be free (not open >>>source, just free like in "free beer"). I'm not completely out on this. >>> >>>One thing that could stop me from producing a free version for Linux is if one >>>could run the Linux executable under Windows. >>> >>>I'm now absolutely convinced that Windows is going to disappear and Linux will >>>replace it. It might take 10 to 15 years, I don't care. It is necessary, it will >>>happen, and BTW it cannot be stopped. I want to be part of this revolution, and >>>maybe it will be with a free Chess Tiger for Linux. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >> >>Linux and "free" are not synonymous. > > >I know they are not. > >It's just that I want to contribute to Linux in some way, and I see no point in >releasing a commercial version of Tiger at this time. There are not enough >people using Linux to make any money from it now. But it will change in the >future. > >As I am planning to use Linux as the developpement platform for the engine, >releasing a free version of Tiger will not cost me anything, and there is no >loss for me from releasing it for free. > >Actually the 32 bits version of Chess Tiger is developped since 1997 with the >GCC compiler and the RHIDE developpement environement. It's just that I was >running them under Windows in a DOS box. > >I have found that RHIDE is now available under Linux, so I now have the >developpement tools I'm used to under Linux. I am moving to Linux (I installed it few days ago). I do not think I will abandon windows at all but I really want to get familiar with linux; hence, I want to start developing in that environment to feel how it is. Besides, a code that runs in different OS with different compilers has better chances to catch bugs. I used to use RHIDE before MVSC. Great news that RHIDE is in Linux! I will try it. So far, I am struggling a little bit but it is a matter of getting familiar, I guess. >> I have always said that I would be more >>than happy to pay for a commercial program that ran on Linux. By that I mean >>something equivalent to CA or the original Shredder. Not just an engine. A >>free engine for Xboard would be nice but a free engine that hooked into SCID >>would be better. > > >It will come. I'm not planning to offer free Linux versions forever. But I want >chess lovers to know that soon Linux will be a very interesting choice for them. > > > > >>Windows isn't going to go away in the near future but, like you, I think it is >>doomed. Linux has a way to go but I use it 99.9% of the time. Like today, I >>applied a Mandrake update and it broke my internet dial-up, so I'm writing this >>from the Windows partition. I have to go back and fix Linux. They (the Linux >>distros) have to fix that. > > >That's nothing compared to what Windows has repeatedly done to me (and the whole >world actually) in the last 12 years. > >Windows has to disappear, and now I know that it will. What makes you change your mind? some time ago you felt that Linux was not friendly enough to compete with windows. Was there a particular GUI or something? I am curious. Regards, Miguel > > > Christophe
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