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Subject: Re: Ruffian 0.76 is still playing incredible strong!

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 16:53:41 09/19/02

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On September 19, 2002 at 18:53:38, Chessfun wrote:

>On September 19, 2002 at 18:45:52, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>>On September 19, 2002 at 18:33:37, Chessfun wrote:
>>>On September 19, 2002 at 18:21:10, pavel wrote:
>>>>On September 19, 2002 at 18:06:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>>>That's the point.  I can't imagine someone working on an engine, in a vacuum,
>>>>>>>>>for a decade, before anyone finds out about it.  I can't imagine anyone writing
>>>>>>>>>a program in 6 months that would come close to beating _any_ top program.
>>>>>>>>>Anything is possible, I will agree.  But the probability is so low that it
>>>>>>>>>will make people wonder...
>>>>>>>>I hope you realize that you have essentially *publicly* leveled an accusation
>>>>>>>>without presenting any evidence. I would prefer in such cases that either an
>>>>>>>>investigation be conducted discretely or a wait and see policy be followed.
>>>>>>>I haven't leveled _any_ accusation whatsoever.  I asked a direct question,
>>>>>>>pointing out what has happened in the past.  I have _not_ said that this
>>>>>>>program is a "clone" or anything else, and you can feel free to find some-
>>>>>>>thing I wrote that does make that claim...
>>>>>>>As I said previously, I find it _hard_ to believe that a newcomer would be
>>>>>>>that strong.  _not_ impossible, just _unlikely_.  I stand by that...  If some-
>>>>>>>one takes that the wrong way, fine by me...
>>>>>>No offense.
>>>>>>But you had the same impression when YACE came out.
>>>>>Yace first release was clearly wekaer than yace of today.
>>>>Yes I know that.
>>>>But the time between the first released version of Yace and the last version of
>>>>Yace was very short, if you consider the increase in strenth.
>>>>It was when Yace starting doing as good (or even better) that Bob thought it was
>>>>a crafty clone.
>>>>Later Dann verified himself and convinced Bob.
>>>Hi Pavel,
>>>        It's my honest hope that in this case someone will also be able to do
>>>the same thing as Dann with Yace. Ruffian has been rumored to be a Crafty clone
>>>on ICC for some time and I don't doubt Dr. Hyatt has heard those rumors.
>>Before, in this forum, it was accused of
>>1) not reporting the right hardware
>>2) playing with the "move now" controlled by the operator
>>3) being a commercial program (and lying about being an amateur in the notes)
>>4) being Russian in a supercomputer
>>I am really surprised that nobody suggested the real truth.
>>5) It is Bobby Fischer.
>Then how will Bobby fit into my PC?, do I have to feed him?. ;-)

You don't have Ruffian in your PC, do you?



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