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Subject: Re: Does 64 bit architecture have any benefit on chess programs?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:56:11 10/02/02

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On October 02, 2002 at 05:55:39, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On October 01, 2002 at 08:00:26, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>Obviously the bitboard programs will profit. We can guess from alpha
>>specs that it's about 33% profit.
>
>Really? How can we guess that? What specs?
>
>>A default compile from DIEP at an Itanium2/McKinley for example it is
>>33% faster at it than it is at a K7 at the same clock.
>>That's *very* good. Obviously it's a mixture of Level caches and especially
>>doing bundles of 6 instructions a clock.
>
>What a load of BS. 33% faster than a 1GHz Athlon gives you 1.33GHz Athlon
>performance. How is this "*very* good"? You can get a 1.33GHz Athlon on
>Pricewatch for $52.
>
>-Tom

Most supercomputer processors are stupid alpha's or stupid other cpu's
which run
  a) at lower Mhz speeds
  b) give lower performance

So i definitely find the McKinley a great cpu.

It's obviously true that up to a processor or 8 you better can buy a dual k7
for $2000. Even if 8 processor mckinley is faster, you can let the dual k7
run a bit longer there. No problem...

But now let's look it from supercomputing viewpoint. That McKinley CAN be put
in most supercomputers. A k7 never will. So from supercomputing viewpoint
the McKinley is great. 33% faster a Mhz. Alpha 21164 for example was
a bad joke here. Despite some people saying it was ok for them, for DIEP
it was horror. Sun didn't do too bad, but doesn't even get *close* to
k7 speed for me. Also highest clocked Sun also is 1Ghz.

So the McKinley is a big winner from all respects. Now let's discuss its
price versus a SUN 1Ghz :)

Best regards,
Vincent




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