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Subject: Re: GM Nigel comments

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 21:21:42 10/07/02

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On October 07, 2002 at 18:39:47, Marc van Hal wrote:

>On October 07, 2002 at 15:26:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 07, 2002 at 15:14:06, Ed Panek wrote:
>>
>>>On October 07, 2002 at 14:45:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 07, 2002 at 13:17:30, Matthew Barnett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I agree.  There was still a little way to go for Kramnik.  Given that Kramnik
>>>>>was way down on time (about 3 mins) compared to Fritz, I think this alone would
>>>>>have been a legitimate reason to play on.  Your time trouble is something your
>>>>>opponent can use in their favour: it's part of the game.  Otherwise, why have
>>>>>clocks?
>>>>>
>>>>>Bests
>>>>>
>>>>>Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think that you underestimate kramnik if you think that he can blunder in
>>>>that pawn endgame.
>>>>
>>>>The only reason to continue is to convince some people
>>>>who do not understand it.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>The point isnt about blundering though..its about sweat and work. Its an 8 game
>>>match. For the match to be level Fritz should use all advantages even if the
>>>return is immediately nil. The long term effects on Kramnik might be worth it.
>>>IF you are cycling the tour de france and after the second leg you are losing to
>>>the leader, do you simply stop pushing the leader because he has won this leg
>>>anyways? I dont. I make that guy work and think ok you beat me but see that I
>>>fight to the end. Now next time we race he thinks..well if I get the lead.. i
>>>must now worry about him not letting up on me and making me play every pebble
>>>and scrap of dirt on the track.
>>>
>>>   Is there a rule somewhere that GM dont have to mate opponents?
>>
>>There is no formal rule but there is a practical rule that says that Gm's
>>usually resign in positions like the position of Fritz against kramnik.
>>
>>I believe that most GM's are going to resign in the same position that Deep
>>Fritz resigned and maybe even in an earlier position.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I am pretty sure most GM's would play on some moves.
>And I even know Kramnik easely would have won that game
>But on the board it is not so clear.
>The etiquete where I was talking about is resign only when even a beginner knows
>how to win that position.
>And that stage was not reached yet.
>I can show you a position where the Fritz team would have resigned while 2 moves
>later the game was a draw and the oponent then did resign in the equal position.
>How stupid can you be!
>
>Marc

I know a lot of cases when one side resigned after losing a piece in the opening
or the middle game.

I think that winning a won pawn endgame is a simpler task.

Uri



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