Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:01:20 08/30/98
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On August 29, 1998 at 16:44:19, blass uri wrote: > >On August 28, 1998 at 15:32:41, Inmann Werner wrote: > >>Your idea is good,but the real good ideas, which make the difference between >>the profi programs and amateur programs > >I think you should say the difference between crafty and better programs >because profi programs are not better than amateur(Junior5 is amateur) > First, Junior 5 is *not* an amateur program. It is being sold, just like Fritz, Genius, etc. It hasn't been released, yet, but it is a commercial program. Second, from the remainder of the "amateur" programs, I haven't seen any remarkable results... They are all playing pretty well, no one (IMHO) is significantly better than the others... I'd personally take my chances against any of them and expect to do reasonably well, for example. But the real problem is that "most" of the amateurs share ideas. And we sure know what each other is doing. The point being made above is that "commercial" programs reveal *nothing* about what they are doing, so that any sort of "algorithm list" would certainly be incomplete with respect to what they are doing. To the people that are "pretty new" to developing chess programs, don't take anyone's comments here too seriously. You *can* develop a strong chess engine, whether you are a commercial author or not, contrary to popular opinion. You will definitely start off slow. But progress happens... So keep working... >>, nobody will tell. > >How do you know that nobody will tell? >The programmers will not tell but someone who thought about the same idea and is >not going to do a chess program can tell. > How can you know someone has the "same idea"? That is completely impossible since we have *no* idea about what goes on in the commercial engines. So even if someone does have the same idea, there'd be no way to know it had already been done before... which is certainly a shame within the confines of "software engineering"... but quite common in "industry"... >Uri
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