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Subject: Re: A weird scenario: Better for chess that Kasparov loses?

Author: Kurt Widmann

Date: 10:26:06 10/08/02

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On October 08, 2002 at 12:38:34, Knut Bjørnar Wålberg wrote:

>If Kramnik mops the floor with Deep Fritz, a rather odd situation might arise:
>What will most strengthen the belief that the top human(s) is in fact better
>than any machine/program ever created?
>
>That Kasparov later crushes Deep Junior, or that he loses?
>
>If Kasparov wins without problems, it could be argued that the Chessbase
>products are clearly not up to the standard of Deep Blue. However, if Kasparov
>loses, then DF and DJ should at least be on par with DB2, and therefore Kramnik
>is even stronger, and it's just Kasparov that doesn't know how to play
>computers.
>
>I know there are other factors that come into play (especially the way the
>players were able to prepare), but how do you all think the world in general
>will perceive these different scenarios? What is the ideal score in the two
>matches when it comes to creating interest in chess and computer chess?
>
>As a final note, it seems to me that Deep Blue might end up as a sort of Bobby
>Fischer of computer chess; Perceived by many as the greatest ever, a statement
>that one can neither prove nor disprove at the moment. Any comments on that? ;)
>
>Knut Bjørnar Wålberg

Could it just be,that the silicons are guided by carbons into positions
where brute force calculations does not yet reach the horizon set by
strategic planning. Example,F7 in todays game against Kramnik at move 13
seem to play at a plateau of 1200 rated humans(carbons). But carbon based
programmers must not guide Silicons into such positions without giving them
more knowledge of how to proceed. In the above mentioned game it is unfair
to assume that F7 will find a way to keep or increase its position evaluation
from move 13 on. It needed at least an other 4 or 5 moves for proper guidance.
So,Kramnik made mince meat out of the book makers and Kasparov may do the same.
Kurt Widmann



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