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Subject: Re: PLEASE don't say that Deep Fritz is superior to Deep Blue!!!

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 13:59:54 10/10/02

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On October 10, 2002 at 15:55:32, Uri Blass wrote:

>Deep blue did not see Qe3 in the main line based on the logfiles of IBM.
>A lot of programs of today can see it with no problem.
>
>Some programs can even see the move Kh1 instead of Kf1 of Deep blue(I did not
>check the last deep Fritz but previous Deep Fritz is one of them).
>
>It is not a proof that deep blue is weaker but it is an evidence that Deep
>blue's evaluation is inferior.
>
>Good evaluation is not about knowing the truth(that you cannot know) but about
>giving a better estimate and it seems that the top programs of today get better
>decisions based on positional reasons.

In Hsu's book, there is a large section about the 1997 match, going through
game-by-game.  It's very surprising how many evaluation bugs they found, and
there's no doubt there were many more.  The full DB2 never played a serious game
before the 1997 match, either, so it's inevitable that things weren't tuned to
the best possible accuracy.  It's hard to compare something like that to a
commercial program of today, which plays thousands of testing games and the
programmers have as long as they want to tune each parameter.

DB2 only played 6 games in its lifetime.  To compare its positional strength to
anything based on those games is meaningless.  Or if you really want, I can
easily find 6 games where some commercial program was completely clueless
positionally. :)



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