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Subject: Re: null-move vs non-null-move

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:04:21 10/11/02

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On October 10, 2002 at 06:51:47, Alessandro Damiani wrote:


Wrong, selectivity 0 at fritz gives it a complete fullwidth
search.

Quote: Frans Morsch

>On October 10, 2002 at 02:01:51, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 09, 2002 at 23:06:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I had to stop the experiment sooner than I wanted, but I did find some
>>>interesting things out.
>>>
>>>1.  at _very_ fast time controls (40 moves in 1 minute) null-move completely
>>>destroys non-null-move
>>>by a ridiculous margin.  (this ended something like 60 wins, 5 losses, 8 draws)
>>>
>>>2.  At longer time controls (40 moves in 10 minutes) non-null-move catches up
>>>somewhat.  It still loses
>>>far more than it wins, but not _nearly_ so bad as test 1.  (this was closer, but
>>>with fewer games played)
>>
>>It seems based on your data that null move is more important for blitz and not
>>for long time control.
>>
>>Interesting to know also the difference in plies
>>
>>If I compare depth after 3 minutes of search then I see for deep Fritz 3-5 plies
>>difference at 3 minutes per move between selectivity 0 and the default value 2.
>>
>
>By using a program with unknown source code you cannot be sure that
>selectivity=2 is only related to null-move.
>
>Alessandro



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