Author: martin fierz
Date: 16:16:15 10/14/02
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On October 14, 2002 at 19:03:02, GuyHaworth wrote:
>From 2N3k1/5p2/1p4pp/4n3/4Q3/4P1PP/q4PK1/8 b - - 0 34,
>and leaving Fritz6 to search to 14 plies deep, the following emerges:
>
>34...Qe6 35.Nxb6 Qxb6 36.Qxe5 Qc6+ {GBR 4000.43} 37.e4 f5 38.Kf3 fxe4
>39.Qxe4 {GBR 4000.32} Qf6+ 40.Kg2 Kg7 41.h4 h5 {D}
guy, your position has very little to do with the fritz-kramnik game! if you
read my post you should realize that black is not supposed to play ...f5
himself! fritz in self-play mode is not what i would call an authority on this
position :-)
as you can see, in the game you quote, black wins because the black king can
penetrate the white position and create threats against the white king. with
additional pawns on f2 and e whatever, this is not possible.
but of course, like you, i am also waiting for karsten muellers verdict on this
endgame!
aloha
martin
>[D] 8/6k1/5qp1/7p/4Q2P/6P1/5PK1/8 w - - 0 42
>
>which seems quite adjacent to Muller/Lamprecht, FCE, p326, #935:
>V.Ciocaltea-W.Unzicker, Moscow, 1956
>
>[D] 8/5pk1/6p1/7p/2q4P/6P1/3Q3K b - - 0 1
>
>1... Kf6 2. Qd8+ Ke6 3. Qe8+ Kf5 4. Qd7+ Ke4 5. Qe7+ Kd3 6. Qa3+ Kc2 7. Qe7 Kd1
>8. Qd8+ Ke2 9. Qe7+ Qe6 10. Qb7 Kf2 11. Qg2+ Ke1 12. Qg1+ Ke2 13. Qg2+ Kd3 14.
>Qf3+ Kd2 15. Qf4+ Ke2 16. Qc7 f5 17. Qc2+ Kf3 18. Qg2+ Ke3 19. Qb2 Qc4 20. Qa3+
>Qd3 21. Qc5+ Kf3 {D}
>
>[D] 8/8/6p1/2Q2p1p/7P/3q1kP1/7K/8 w - - 0 21
>
>22. Qc6+ Qe4 23. Qc3+ Kf2 24. Qc5+ Qe3 25. Qc2+ Qe2 26. Qc6
>Kf1+ 27. Kh3 Kg1! 28. Qc5+ Qf2 29. Qe3!? f4! 0-1
>
>M/L describe this as a "very well known example" demonstrating that, "even with
>all the pawns on one wing, an extra pawn provides winning chances."
>
>
>It would obviously be good to get Karsten Muller's analysis of this endgame in
>his game analysis.
>
>It would also be good to have DFritz/Compaq_DL560 left to play this out from
>36.Qxe5 with the appropriate time-regime.
>
>g
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