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Subject: Re: its possible to make 1 billion nodes/sec chip 2day- Hsu

Author: emerson tan

Date: 02:48:48 10/18/02

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On October 17, 2002 at 16:29:46, martin fierz wrote:

>On October 17, 2002 at 08:13:38, emerson tan wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 2002 at 20:27:57, martin fierz wrote:
>>
>>>On October 16, 2002 at 17:57:10, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 16, 2002 at 17:53:25, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 16, 2002 at 16:43:53, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I find it tasteless that Hsu claims that Deep Blue was in a 'different
>>>>>>class' from Fritz and that it was not match for them, when he has no
>>>>>>ability to back it up and the only public things we have about the two
>>>>>>show differently.
>>>>>
>>>>>How do they show differently?
>>>>
>>>>'very old' Fritz beat 'very old' Deep Blue
>>>
>>>...and in a shveshnikov book line at that which was in the fritz book and not in
>>>the DB book AFAIK. using one game alone as a proof is not a good idea. and if
>>>that game was decided by the better opening book, then it gets downright
>>>ridiculous.
>>>
>>>aloha
>>>  martin
>>>
>>>
>>Kasparov wasalso beaten by deep Blues opening book in game six and kasparov loss
>>by a point. Thats one game up as proof also. Deep Blue team started claiming
>>victory. downright ridiculous also?
>
>we are talking about very different things here. from ONE game you cannot claim
>that anybody is better, like it was done from the DB prototype-fritz game.
>in the kasparov match, we are not talking about claiming "DB is better than
>kasparov", but about "DB won the match". you can NEVER argue with that kind of
>thing - it happened, DB won the match. i'm not arguing that DB prototype did not
>lose against fritz - only that it is meaningless.
>BTW, if you ask me if i believe that DB was better than kasparov i would also
>say no...
>
>aloha
>  martin

Ok, got your point:)



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