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Subject: Re: its possible to make 1 billion nodes/sec chip 2day- Hsu

Author: martin fierz

Date: 13:29:46 10/17/02

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On October 17, 2002 at 08:13:38, emerson tan wrote:

>On October 16, 2002 at 20:27:57, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 2002 at 17:57:10, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On October 16, 2002 at 17:53:25, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 16, 2002 at 16:43:53, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I find it tasteless that Hsu claims that Deep Blue was in a 'different
>>>>>class' from Fritz and that it was not match for them, when he has no
>>>>>ability to back it up and the only public things we have about the two
>>>>>show differently.
>>>>
>>>>How do they show differently?
>>>
>>>'very old' Fritz beat 'very old' Deep Blue
>>
>>...and in a shveshnikov book line at that which was in the fritz book and not in
>>the DB book AFAIK. using one game alone as a proof is not a good idea. and if
>>that game was decided by the better opening book, then it gets downright
>>ridiculous.
>>
>>aloha
>>  martin
>>
>>
>Kasparov wasalso beaten by deep Blues opening book in game six and kasparov loss
>by a point. Thats one game up as proof also. Deep Blue team started claiming
>victory. downright ridiculous also?

we are talking about very different things here. from ONE game you cannot claim
that anybody is better, like it was done from the DB prototype-fritz game.
in the kasparov match, we are not talking about claiming "DB is better than
kasparov", but about "DB won the match". you can NEVER argue with that kind of
thing - it happened, DB won the match. i'm not arguing that DB prototype did not
lose against fritz - only that it is meaningless.
BTW, if you ask me if i believe that DB was better than kasparov i would also
say no...

aloha
  martin



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