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Subject: Re: Great Result for Fritz and puts to rest some questions.

Author: martin fierz

Date: 10:38:26 10/19/02

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On October 19, 2002 at 13:34:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 19, 2002 at 13:28:13, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On October 19, 2002 at 11:56:33, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On October 19, 2002 at 11:23:34, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>The match has put to rest some questions, or maybe not!
>>>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>1.	Do PC programs play at a GM Level? – Clearly Yes.
>>>
>>>This hasn't been an unanswered question for some time now.
>>>
>>>>2.	Can PC programs win against a well prepared and motivated Grand Master? –
>>>>Yes.
>>>
>>>What evidence do you have that Kramnik was motivated?
>>>
>>>>4.	Was Deep Blue 1997 was much stronger then Deep Fritz and other PC programs? -
>>>>No.
>>>
>>>Don't even start this again. The only thing that is clear about this is that
>>>it's not clear.
>>>
>>>>5.	Can a PC program compete with the worlds best chess players even when it is
>>>>for sale to the public and everyone has a chance to play against the program? –
>>>>Yes.
>>>
>>>Same as #1
>>>
>>>>8.	Will it take another 10 years before anyone can have a computer that plays as
>>>>well as Deep Blue? No.
>>>
>>>Stop making definitive statements about Deep Blue vs. PC chess programs please.
>>>You, like everyone else, cannot address this subject definitively.
>>>
>>>Russell
>>
>>re points 1 & 5: mark could/should have made the statement stronger. it's true
>>that the question "can comps play at GM level" has been answered before. but GM
>>level and kramnik-level are two very different pairs of shoes! the last GM-fritz
>>match was huebner vs fritz, tied at 3-3, and although huebner is a strong player
>>of course he is no kramnik...
>>
>>aloha
>>  martin
>
>Yes but Fritz got better relative to that match in software and hardware.
>
>Uri

of course. but would you have thought it would make a 200 elo difference? i
wouldn't...

aloha
  martin



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