Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:40:00 10/28/02
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On October 28, 2002 at 10:31:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On October 28, 2002 at 10:05:29, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 28, 2002 at 09:44:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On October 28, 2002 at 09:38:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>I hope you realize that i prefer a time control of 40 in 2. >>>However, if you play blitz levels like 90 0, then you have >>>consequences like this. If you asked me in advance, then >>>i would not have told you to expect that i would get to >>>move 187 at all in a computer-computer game which was >>>hand operated. >>> >>>Both operators played like 50 moves extra with very little time >>>on the clock. >>> >>>If you do not find it fair to win on time, then don't play 90 0 >>>is my viewpoint. I prefer 40 in 2 myself too. If you go 90 0, >>>it is unpreventable that a number of games end in a time win. >> >>It is possible to prevent it if you do not play games manually. >> >>I see no reason to play games manually. >>I see no reason not to play the games automatically in ICC. >> >>Uri > >But this is why your movei will have problems progressing >like GCP is progressing fast now with Sjeng. He talks to the >programmers live and he is there to operate his program. > >I will never trust it if we use some kind of protocol where i >cannot see my opponent. There is too much money at stake with >some people to just *assume* they play honest if you can't see >them. That is all well and good, but it wasn't Uri's point. You can attend a tournament, but _not_ manually operate. There is absolutely nothing wrong with requiring that a programmer attend, if you want. But there is also absolutely nothing wrong with an automatic interface to actually play the games. And in fact, there is a lot _right_ with it as it eliminates a significant opportunity for cheating... > >May i remind you the FIDE world champs qualifier which was played >online? Can you please analyze the games of the first 8 who >qualified. How many of them look non-computer helped to you? > >If you trust all those GMs, how many of the games the GM in person >or even FM in person, played an opening he normally plays too? > >Isn't it weird that some games resemble some Top GMs, who didn't >need to qualify, a lot? > >If you still are under the impression that this wouldn't happen >in computerchess, then let me just tell you that for those GMs >only up to $10000 was at stake, in order to qualify for moscow >2001. In computerchess for the commercials you can add a few zero's >to it for some. > >You still reading this? > >Best regards, >Vincent
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