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Subject: Re: time note

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:24:36 10/29/02

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On October 29, 2002 at 05:53:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On October 28, 2002 at 11:07:43, Uri Blass wrote:
>>On October 28, 2002 at 10:31:03, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>On October 28, 2002 at 10:05:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>On October 28, 2002 at 09:44:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>On October 28, 2002 at 09:38:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>I hope you realize that i prefer a time control of 40 in 2.
>>>>>However, if you play blitz levels like 90 0, then you have
>>>>>consequences like this. If you asked me in advance, then
>>>>>i would not have told you to expect that i would get to
>>>>>move 187 at all in a computer-computer game which was
>>>>>hand operated.
>>>>>Both operators played like 50 moves extra with very little time
>>>>>on the clock.
>>>>>If you do not find it fair to win on time, then don't play 90 0
>>>>>is my viewpoint. I prefer 40 in 2 myself too. If you go 90 0,
>>>>>it is unpreventable that a number of games end in a time win.
>>>>It is possible to prevent it if you do not play games manually.
>>>>I see no reason to play games manually.
>>>>I see no reason not to play the games automatically in ICC.
>>>But this is why your movei will have problems progressing
>>>like GCP is progressing fast now with Sjeng. He talks to the
>>>programmers live and he is there to operate his program.
>>>I will never trust it if we use some kind of protocol where i
>>>cannot see my opponent. There is too much money at stake with
>>>some people to just *assume* they play honest if you can't see
>>seeing the opponent does not mean playing manually.
>>You can be there see everything when the programs are not operated manually.
>and where would be able to do all this nice toying?
>using the auto232 protocol i assume? Because winboard is unusable
>for windows GUIs and uci is unusable if i run under linux.

What does all that mean?

Winboard works perfectly for windows.

UCI can work in any system you want, if you develop an interface for your
program that uses it...

This is _the_ reason the ICCA is still using manual operation.  A "few" simply
refuse to move forward, think outside the box a bit, and come up with a solution
that has already been proven to work reliably for many years.

A local FICS server at the tournament site, with a LAN for all participants,
every problem ever dreamed of.  If someone is not willing to write their own GUI
to talk to ICC, they can use winboard for windows or xboard for unix, or they
use others like chesspartner.  Or they can sit at home and continue to

>Best regards,

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