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Subject: Re: OK then, so the top is either DF7, CT15 or CM9K Utzinger! Am I right?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 18:21:41 10/30/02

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On October 30, 2002 at 16:05:54, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On October 30, 2002 at 15:31:38, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>The very highest scorer if the ssdf had tested all the above, seems to have to
>>be one of these three Deep Fritz 7, or Chess Tiger 15, or CM9K Utzinger
>>settings. Does that make sense? And if so, that in any case, these would take
>>the top 3 places?
>
>Nobody knows.
>
>You'll get plenty of guesses, though.
>
>Just for fun, let's consider just these entries from the current SSDF list:
>                                        Rating +   -  Games Won Av.opp
>1 Deep Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz    2763 34 -31   535 73%  2587
>2 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz         2742 30 -29   574 64%  2637
>3 Shredder 6.0 Paderb 256MB Athlon 1200   2736 25 -24   831 66%  2623
>5 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200   2717 30 -30   557 61%  2638
>
>A glance will show you that given the error bars, any of them could be the
>strongest.

I can see that. The minus of the highest, and the plus of the lowest, change
them around.

>
>Now, CT 15 or CM9K are unknown.  They might be stronger than all of the above.
>They might be weaker than all of the above.  They might be somewhere in the
>middle.
>
>By the time we could know an answer, the next iteration of all the products will
>be out.
>
>In any case, any of them are "strong enough" that it will make no difference
>which one of them we are playing against (as humans) for 99.9999% of us.

It is good to have the feeling that you are getting the most educated advice
when trying to analyze a game, and if you are very hopeful that a sacrifice you
think is ingenious, should work, you would want the program most likely to see
the truth about it, as possible.
And when playing, you would rather be beaten by wisdom than by your human
frailties being exposed (which any good program can do). I mean, the greater the
program (nowdays) the more likelihood of its wisdom. And in that way, you are
slightly more likely to learn things from your lost games.
That's why I keep wanting the "best" in playing strength. Not because the others
are too easy.
S.Taylor



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