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Subject: Re: OT: P4- 3 GHz with hyper-threading

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:03:44 11/04/02

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On November 04, 2002 at 15:58:09, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On November 04, 2002 at 11:32:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>If it spends 20% of it's time for this (a realistic number
>>>on a high end P4) and the parallel speedup is 1.7 then it
>>>is going to run about 5% faster with SMT, roughly.
>>
>>Where does that "math" come from?  (5%)
>
>Assuming the speedup comes from that 20% waiting time that
>can be eliminated, and your parallel efficiency is 1.7, I
>do 1.20*(1.70/2) and arrive at a speedup of eh, 2%.
>(I realize this is quite fuzzy math)

That looks _way_ too fuzzy for me.  IE I would expect 70% of that "extra
processor" which using your case above, would be 14% improvement.


>
>>I have seen a 30% improvement
>>in NPS using hyper-threading on a 2.2ghz PIV.  That should translate into
>>a roughly 20% improvement in search speed to a specific depth.  That seemed
>>to be close to the numbers Eugene posted as well.
>
>Why is it so much? Is Crafty so memory-bound?
>

I think any program is memory bound to some degree.  But memory is not the only
issue.  IE instruction dependencies stall one instruction stream frequently,
such as needing
the result from a previous instruction in the current instruction.  Filling in
these "gaps"
gains a good bit...





>>Once I have time to fiddle with the locks to add the pause, I expect even >better performance...
>
>I use this, works fine with Intel C
>
>__inline void Lock (volatile int *hPtr)
>{
>    __asm
>      {
>        mov     ecx, hPtr
>   la:  mov     eax, 1
>        xchg    eax, [ecx]
>        test    eax, eax
>        jz      end
>   lb:  pause
>	mov     eax, [ecx]
>        test    eax, eax
>        jz      la
>        jmp     lb
>   end:
>}
>
>--
>GCP


Mine wasn't liking "pause".  that was the problem.  I'll try it with the most
recent
release to see if that fixes it...



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