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Subject: Re: The Deep Junior Team Should use one of this baby !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:57:38 11/05/02

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On November 05, 2002 at 19:32:26, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On November 05, 2002 at 11:22:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 05, 2002 at 05:39:24, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2002 at 18:21:41, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 11:27:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 07:34:14, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 06:50:05, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 06:22:12, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mr. Pichard,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How fast can this Dual Guillotine "execute" instructions? This will definitely
>>>>>>>>"cut" the time we have to wait during analysis. Kasparov might lose his head.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TJF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sorry, but I can NOT stop laughing, you are right, Mr. Kasparov might lose his
>>>>>>>head with this new Dual Guilotine. Ha Ha Ha.........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't "Bet" on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would agree.  Speed against humans is highly over-rated, because speed against
>>>>>a computer opponent is so critical.
>>>>
>>>>If people check the Deep Fritz Vs. GM Kramnik games most of the moves made by
>>>>the program can be found very quickly using a fast 1 chip p4. These are not the
>>>>only examples, so I would have to agree.
>>>
>>>It's not about most moves, it's about the singular ones which looses, wins or
>>>holds. So I disagree.
>>
>>The question is, "how many of those occur in a 6 game match?"  And for those
>>that
>>occur, "how many times does the faster hardware find the winning move, or avoid
>>the losing move, when the slower hardware doesn't?"
>>
>>I think that the answer to that last question against humans is "very
>>infrequently".
>>While against a computer it is much more significant.
>>
>>
>well, in a 6 game match, probably not more than one time, but this may decide
>the whole match.
>
>I agree that hardware is more important in engine-engine-matches, but why not
>take the chance to play on better hardware, if there is a probability that it
>increases strength?
>

Never said "don't use this box".  The original statement was "this box will be
a crushing advantage" or something to that effect.  It will definitely play
better.
But not _significantly_ better...


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>>>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 06:13:02, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On November 04, 2002 at 03:32:11, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.informationweek.com/news/IWK20021101S0042
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Intel's Quad 2.0Ghz
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Should be around 3M nps with Crafty.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>An intel's Dual Gallatin Xeon operating at 2.2 Ghz should be available by the
>>>>>>>>>end of this month, just before the match against Kasparov.



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