Author: Tony Werten
Date: 09:14:58 11/17/02
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On November 16, 2002 at 15:05:27, Lex Loep wrote: >On November 16, 2002 at 14:33:21, Tony Werten wrote: > >>On November 16, 2002 at 14:04:38, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On November 16, 2002 at 13:33:01, Tony Werten wrote: >>> >>>>On November 16, 2002 at 12:46:00, Lex Loep wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 05:58:07, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 02:41:51, Lex Loep wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 00:13:10, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On November 15, 2002 at 19:13:51, Volker Richey wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>more informations at >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://www.vrichey.de/cct5 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Volker >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No authorized operator? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The interface kibitzes.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Looking at the list of participants I see there is no competition >>>>>>>for tiger. So what's the point in participating ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Well, have a look at Leiden 2002; ct had lost against points against the >>>>>>winboarders and had to rank below 2 of these. >>>>> >>>>>What do you mean ? This is what I remember >>>>>http://lokasoft.nl/uk/chess_tiger_15_in_dutch_open.htm >>>>> >>>>>Lex >>>> >>>>Maybe you can also remember the game you saw ? Tiger was very lucky against >>>>XiniX. It was at most a draw for Tiger, maybe not even that. Tiger was very >>>>lucky against Baron as well. >>>> >>>>Just looking at the endtable and saying "Tiger had no competition since it won" >>>>is not very realistic. >>>> >>>>Tony >>> >>>Can you define being lucky? >> >>XiniX had a much better position in the endgame but not much time left. It only >>took 6 seconds and produced the only move wich doesn't only give away the chance >>for a win but also gives away the draw. >> >>XiniX needs 8 seconds to come to the right move. >> > >But then you may have lost the game on time. >Timecontrol is part of the game and is no argument >for being lucky. Probably depends on wether you're interested in computerchess or in selling. Tony > >Lex > > >>Tony >> >>> >>>For me being lucky in case of no bugs is not a case when the opponent missed a >>>win because knowing to win won games is part of chess. >>> >>>I think that you can say that a program is lucky if the opponent outsearched it >>>when both sides do not understand the final position when later both programs >>>are surprised to find that the result is not what they evaluated. >>> >>>It happened to an old piece square table version of movei with no hash tables in >>>a game against Nejmet. >>> >>>Nejmet outsearched it and won a pawn only to find that the knight is trapped >>>so Nejmet lost the game. >>> >>>Uri
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