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Subject: Re: Odd that Tiger and Rebel are not there....

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 09:14:58 11/17/02

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On November 16, 2002 at 15:05:27, Lex Loep wrote:

>On November 16, 2002 at 14:33:21, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2002 at 14:04:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2002 at 13:33:01, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 12:46:00, Lex Loep wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 05:58:07, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 02:41:51, Lex Loep wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 16, 2002 at 00:13:10, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On November 15, 2002 at 19:13:51, Volker Richey wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>more informations at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.vrichey.de/cct5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Volker
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No authorized operator?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The interface kibitzes..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Looking at the list of participants I see there is no competition
>>>>>>>for tiger. So what's the point in participating ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, have a look at Leiden 2002; ct had lost against points against the
>>>>>>winboarders and had to rank below 2 of these.
>>>>>
>>>>>What do you mean ? This is what I remember
>>>>>http://lokasoft.nl/uk/chess_tiger_15_in_dutch_open.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>Lex
>>>>
>>>>Maybe you can also remember the game you saw ? Tiger was very lucky against
>>>>XiniX. It was at most a draw for Tiger, maybe not even that. Tiger was very
>>>>lucky against Baron as well.
>>>>
>>>>Just looking at the endtable and saying "Tiger had no competition since it won"
>>>>is not very realistic.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>Can you define being lucky?
>>
>>XiniX had a much better position in the endgame but not much time left. It only
>>took 6 seconds and produced the only move wich doesn't only give away the chance
>>for a win but also gives away the draw.
>>
>>XiniX needs 8 seconds to come to the right move.
>>
>
>But then you may have lost the game on time.
>Timecontrol is part of the game and is no argument
>for being lucky.

Probably depends on wether you're interested in computerchess or in selling.

Tony

>
>Lex
>
>
>>Tony
>>
>>>
>>>For me being lucky in case of no bugs is not a case when the opponent missed a
>>>win because knowing to win won games is part of chess.
>>>
>>>I think that you can say that a program is lucky if the  opponent outsearched it
>>>when both sides do not understand the final position when later both programs
>>>are surprised to find that the result is not what they evaluated.
>>>
>>>It happened to an old piece square table version of movei with no hash tables in
>>>a game against Nejmet.
>>>
>>>Nejmet outsearched it and won a pawn only to find that the knight is trapped
>>>so Nejmet lost the game.
>>>
>>>Uri



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