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Subject: Re: SEE functions

Author: Bo Persson

Date: 09:40:03 11/26/02

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On November 26, 2002 at 00:36:39, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On November 25, 2002 at 21:28:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>The concept of a "captures only" q-search is so flawed that tossing out a
>>few extra captures, or keeping a few unnecessary captures is basically
>>unimportant...  There are so many positions where a capture is not the best
>>move that to hope for much from the q-search is mostly wishful thinking...
>
>Exactly. Let's remember, q-search stands for "quiescence search", which means
>"searching for a quite or peaceful position." So we're looking for a position
>that is peaceful and unlikely to change drastically so we can evaluate it more
>accurately.

Or rather evaluate it at all!

Naturally, you cannot trust your material evaluation in the middle of a capture
sequence. :-)

So, you have to play it out, or find a position where one side will pass. *Then*
you can evaluate the material balance.

Forking the queen is something you should do in the regular search. Extend on
"forking potential" or something, and stay out of the qsearch!

>Most of the "violent" captures (captures that will change the
>score of the position drastically) are bad ones anyway, so as Bob says, a
>capture only q-search has some pretty big holes in it.

Yes, but...

The idea is to figure out if the captures *are* bad.

>
>Instead of thinking "generate captures", think "generate forcing moves".
>Captures, checks, some attacks...whatever forces the opponent or yourself to
>have to do something (or suffer the consequences).

But "generate captures" is easy, and will find a lot of moves that are known to
change the evaluation drastically. These you *have* to try.

The real killer might be a "silent" pawn move that opens up a diagonal for a
piece that blocks the opponent king's only escape route...

Don't look for that in the qsearch!


Bo Person
bop2@telia.com



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