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Subject: Re: WAC 002, again... :)))

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:08:12 12/23/02

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On December 23, 2002 at 11:59:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 23, 2002 at 11:54:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>I remember for years how you proudly posted that you
>solved this trick at 9 ply or so with old crafty
>versions :)
>
>So if we dig up a few old versions from a few years ago
>that should be not so hard to proof :)

Are you only interested in old versions?  Let's play a match, 1996 crafty
vs 1996 Diep if that is so very interesting to you.

I generally care about _todays_ versions, and when I make a comment about
something that (say) fritz does wrong, I would feel pretty stupid if I were
making that remark about a version 3 or 4 years out of date.  It just doesn't
make any sense.  It has been a _long_ time since Crafty has solved WAC 2
positionally...


>
>>On December 23, 2002 at 10:57:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 23, 2002 at 10:14:47, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 23, 2002 at 10:05:20, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 23, 2002 at 09:59:44, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>what i meant to say is that it's a peanut to solve WAC 002
>>>>>if you do not have the in quadrant rule. with the pawn on e3
>>>>>still the white king is within the quadrant of the pawns.
>>>>>
>>>>>So it is amazing for me how some programs can solve this at 8 or 9
>>>>>ply. Most commercials only solve this when they actually see a queen
>>>>>on the board for black which can't get captured (or gets recaptured
>>>>>to queen again).
>>>>
>>>>Even if you give a high score for passed pawn duos you are a whole rook behind
>>>>because of the sacrifice, I doubt any program will find it for positional
>>>>reasons.
>>>
>>>==> Crafty
>>
>>Wrong again.  Why don't you try this stuff _first_???
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>If you extend along the pawn pushes I guess it can be found at 8-9 ply.
>>>
>>>definitely. more important is extending the checks though ;)
>>>
>>>>-S.
>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>Vincent



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