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Subject: Re: WHAT is the definition of a backward pawn?

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 03:21:23 12/25/02

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On December 24, 2002 at 19:38:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 24, 2002 at 03:40:24, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>A backward pawn has the following attributes:
>>
>>1) It cannot be defended by a pawn.
>>2) If it advances, it will be captured by an enemy pawn.
>>3) It is now, or can advance to become, the base of a pawn chain.
>>
>>The classic case is black pawns d6, e5, white pawn e4.
>>
>>The pawn doesn't have to be on an open file.
>>
>>I argue that the pawn cannot be a member of a duo,
>
>I disagree. Some pawns can be member of a duo and backward.
>
>For example white Rb1,c5
>black             b7,c7 Kc8
>
>b7 is backward. c5 is not. It is isolated.


Hi Vincent,

That's interesting.
I thought backwardness is independent of pieces (per definition) and could
therefore been calculated without considering pieces and stored in the
PawnHash-Table?!

What is the exact reason whether c5 is not backward.
1. no candidate
2. if two opponent pawns have backward-distance,
   the most advanced is not backward.
3. because it's isolated.

Regards,
Gerd

>
>>nor can it advance to form
>>one.  Meaning, that in my example above, if you put a white pawn on c4, black
>>pawn on c6, d6 is not backward by this definition.
>>
>>The case you are most concerned about is the case where the pawn is on an open
>>file and there is a protected blockade square in front of the pawn.
>>
>>This devalues a majority and leads to all kinds of positional hell.
>>
>>bruce



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