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Subject: Re: Why Does AMD out perform The Pentium Processor in Chess Only?

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 18:05:55 12/31/02

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On December 31, 2002 at 20:30:43, Matt Taylor wrote:

>On December 31, 2002 at 19:44:51, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On December 31, 2002 at 18:40:13, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>
>>>There are a few tricks available before we need use future tech. The caches can
>>>be made more efficient by using assymetric mappings. And caching on ram and in
>>>the memory controllers are relatively unused.
>>>
>>>MvH Dan Andersson
>>
>>That sounds really good!  At the risk of getting an answer I will not
>>understand, let me ask anyway:  How would current chess engine code be changed
>>to take advantage of:
>>
>>(a) asymmetric mappings,
>>
>>(b) caching on ram, and
>>
>>(c) caching in the memory controllers?
>>
>>You may wish to address this to the computer programmers, since THEY will be the
>>ones who will write the new chess engine code.  [i.e. use "pseudo code,"
>>etceteras]
>
>Caching is invisible to software. The operating system usually doesn't worry
>about the cache, though in some rare cases it needs to.

Well, others here have already confirmed that there would be a HUGE gain in
chess engine performance if the chess engine and its hash tables could be loaded
into a very large cache.

I don't understand the comment about the operating system.  : (

I thought that typical guru chess programmers ALWAYS find ways to take advantage
of the special features of the processors and other hardware.  The operating
system is merely there to make life easier for the programmer!  The guru
programmer will NOT ALLOW himself or herself to be restricted by the operating
system.  The operating system is merely a servant of the programmer, not visa
versa.  The same applies to compilers.  [Who is in charge???]

Am I missing something?  [Did I somehow drift off-topic?]

Bob D.


>
>-Matt



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