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Subject: Re: Use of square eval using Bit Boards aka Ed's Rebel Evaluation,but for bb

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:36:22 01/09/03

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On January 09, 2003 at 06:04:27, Tony Werten wrote:

>On January 08, 2003 at 18:19:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2003 at 17:22:40, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On January 08, 2003 at 16:25:44, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 08, 2003 at 14:31:10, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes Gerd, this is probably most true. I never had the time to put energy in the
>>>>>bit-boards technique. Do you have any idea about the number of clocks needed to
>>>>>extract the hanging pieces from a position using bitboards?
>>>>
>>>>I wrote a program using the same algorithms that Gerd uses for generating
>>>>attacks, but mine are written in C instead of using MMX like Gerd, so mine are
>>>>going to be slower than his. In any case, the engine is somewhat slow. It gets
>>>>around 70knps or maybe a little more on my PIII 733 MHz machine (compare with
>>>
>>>I don't want to bring you down but that is kind of slow.
>>>
>>>XiniX, while generating Ed's attackboards and doing full evaluation and
>>>everything else still gets 400Kn/s in the middlegame on a amd2000
>>>
>>>And that's only with generating the attackboards, not actually using them to
>>>speed up stuff.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>
>>Movei probably makees  300-350 Kn/s but based on your definition
>>of nodes it is probably more nodes.
>>
>>Movei generates millions of legal moves and I know from previous discussion that
>>you consider part of the moves that it generates as nodes when I do not count
>>them as nodes.
>
>Actually, I don't either. The discussion was about futility pruning. I have the
>opinion that if you do all the work for a move and then prune it, you should
>count it as a node.
>
>I don't prune in XiniX other then nullmove. So my 400 should be 400 to you too.
>
>Tony

I do not know what is all the work because for me making the move is also some
work because I update my attack tables and later I need to generate the legal
moves to calculate exact evaluation.

Uri



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