Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 08:59:24 01/22/03
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On January 22, 2003 at 11:38:37, Ed Panek wrote: >On January 22, 2003 at 11:35:19, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: > >>On January 22, 2003 at 10:21:47, Ed Panek wrote: >> >>>Neither side may capitalize on their opponent's inherent weaknesses, i.e. to >>>tire on >>> the part of the human or the loss of time entering >>>moves in the computer (10a). If the >>> machine display a draw in its endgame databases the >>>game ends immediately in a >>> draw (10a). >>> >>>Interesting..Lets say its down to 7 pieces in the endgame. During this time >>>while calculating, Deep Junior sees a variation that will allow Garry to perp >>>check the computer. Seeing this line as "best play" by both sides and evalauting >>>this as a draw does this mean the game ends in a draw or only when the board has >>>5 or fewer pieces? >> >>You can read below >> >>10. Etiquette regarding draws: >> >> a. The contestants voluntarily take upon themselves >>to observe etiquette in agreeing >> to draws without capitalizing on their opponent's >>inherent weaknesses, i.e. the human >> player's tendency to tire in a pointless game of many >>moves, and the machine's >> tendency to lose time through the time taken by its >>operator to input the human >> player's moves. Should a position be reached which is >>in the machine's endgame >> databases and if the result from that position with >>correct play is a draw, then the >> game ends immediately and the machine operator must >>promptly advise the human >> player and the arbiter that the game has been drawn. >> >>Miguel >> >> >>> >>> >>>Ed > >But wait..Remember in the game Deep Fritz vs Krmanik where DF returned his >bishop back to its orignal square thinking Kramnik would also repeat? Wouldnt >this also be immediately a draw as well if it happened in its EGTB search? WHat >if Kasparov, like Kramnik did, thinks this is fallacy? We are talking about etiquette rules. Ettiquete rules many times follow courtesy and common sense. Generally, in human competitions is not needed to put them in writing because both sides are humans and understand that. Computers need don't. Now, you example is far from being a position that is dead drawn and decided. Miguel > > >Ed
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