Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 15:06:00 01/27/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 17:37:20, Matthew Hull wrote: >On January 27, 2003 at 17:30:26, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On January 27, 2003 at 17:11:40, Matthew Hull wrote: >> >>>>The point is to stop the game, and not play against table bases, which is not >>>>interesting. >>>>Either Kasparov would draw the table bases or he would lose to the table bases, >>>>either way it is not interesting as we already know he is not perfect and cannot >>>>(maybe not) hold a draw in for instance a KRNKRR endgame. >>>> >>>>On the other hand it would also be wrong to claim that Junior won that endgame >>>>simply because it read from a table base (table bases won, not Junior), so the >>>>game is void at that moment. >>> >>> >>>Not really. Junior has to successfully steer the game to the won ending...just >>>like humans do all the time! There is no difference, correct? >> >>You are mixing things up now. If Junior can get to a won endgame then it won't >>be declared draw, of course Junior wins. > >I was responding to "Junior won that endgame simply because it read from a table >base", so I'm not mixed up. :) Yes you are, but perhaps I wasn't clear. What I meant was that if the rule wasn't there, we could have the senario that the game goes into the table bases being _drawn_. If the rules wasn't there it means "Junior" could keep playing just to see if Garry makes a mistake. Should that happen it would mean Garry lost to the tables and not to Junior, IMO (see other posts:). Basicly the point is that this senario would tell us nothing about Kasparov and nothing about Junior, thus I call it a void. Junior does not deserve the credit for such a win, IMO. >Junior sees the EGTB endgame in leaves of the search tree and plays the moves to >get there. It is Junior's win, not the EGTB, just like a GM steers the game >toward a known won endgame. Can you see it now? This is not what the rule is about, don't you see that? ;) -S.
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